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Re: The .ing top-level domain

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Post by hn8305823 »

az226 wrote: post #118
abroadwin wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I miss the early days of the internet when the playing field was level. You could actually get a really cool/good/interesting domain just by thinking of it first, not by being rich.

There should be some system in place like you can only have X% of domains not being actively used for a legitimate purpose. And if you fall below, you will need to pick Y domains to relinquish or they will be randomly relinquished for you.

Well there are annual registration fees and those add up quickly if you are squatting on 1000's of domains for 10+ years.

Re: The .ing top-level domain

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Post by jackbravo »

cbsks wrote: post #53
agilob wrote: post #12

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but do they have fuckof\f.ing for submitting complaints? Edit: HN doesn't accept FO as one word, it replaces the last `f` with `i`. Try it yourself.

Seems to work for me: Fuckoff fuckoff.ing

I only see *** ***.ing

Re: The .ing top-level domain

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Post by mywittyname »

az226 wrote: post #118
abroadwin wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I miss the early days of the internet when the playing field was level. You could actually get a really cool/good/interesting domain just by thinking of it first, not by being rich.

There should be some system in place like you can only have X% of domains not being actively used for a legitimate purpose. And if you fall below, you will need to pick Y domains to relinquish or they will be randomly relinquished for you.

Define legitimate. There are plenty of domains that point to simple images.

I'm with you in spirit, but this is a hard problem to solve.

Re: The .ing top-level domain

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Post by dsgnr »

andersrs wrote: post #128
ralmidani wrote: post #73

I checked for cod.ing and they said it was available. I got my hopes up and went to Godaddy. It costs over $38,000. I guess in some ways that’s good because the purchaser would more likely be someone who wants to launch a legit business or project rather than a squatter. But as others have pointed out, this whole thing is a blatant money grab.

Conspiracy theory here: if you go to a big player like GoDaddy they'll sell their queries and some party will see the domain you want and squat it unless you register right away. Just use the whois command in your terminal.

Networksolutions does this, godaddy doesnt.

Re: The .ing top-level domain

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Post by abroadwin »

mywittyname wrote: post #133
az226 wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There should be some system in place like you can only have X% of domains not being actively used for a legitimate purpose. And if you fall below, you will need to pick Y domains to relinquish or they will be randomly relinquished for you.

Define legitimate. There are plenty of domains that point to simple images. I'm with you in spirit, but this is a hard problem to solve.

I'd at least define it as "not just parked for profit."

Re: The .ing top-level domain

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Post by mywittyname »

kykeonaut wrote: post #42
broast wrote: post #29

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I don't really get godaddys pricing on these or what exactly they buy you. They're claiming this price is to preregister to maximize your chance to own it. There is a base rate of $19.99 per year but depending on what word you enter, it quotes up to $12k Bang.ing = 12k; Smash.ing = 3k; Gni.ing = 100; Whyaresomecheaper.ing = 19.99

b.ing goes for 130k

Not included: lawyer fees to defend yourself against the inevitable lawsuit from MS when someone there realizes they need to own it.

Re: The .ing top-level domain

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Post by waythenewsgoes »

saghm wrote: post #112
Imnimo wrote: post #102

So is the way this works that Google pays a bunch of money to ICANN, and then they get the .ing TLD, and can make money by selling individual .ing domains? Is there like a bidding process that ICANN uses to decided who gets the TLD in the first place?

Yes: https://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/auctions

In theory this is beneficial as it helps fund the ICANN and keep it independent. But the reality is that these are effectively money printing machines, effectively out of reach for all but large corporations, which bring questionable value to the internet in general. I selfishly hope that we can establish a free TLD, or at least one which just directly funds ICANN operations instead of benefitting rich middle men.

Re: The .ing top-level domain

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Post by arp242 »

abroadwin wrote: post #135
mywittyname wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Define legitimate. There are plenty of domains that point to simple images. I'm with you in spirit, but this is a hard problem to solve.

I'd at least define it as "not just parked for profit."

But it's trivial to just put something on these domains like Wikipedia picture of the day or whatnot, and who's to say that's not "valid"? It's just that no one bothers now because they don't need to.

In principle I agree, but I don't really see how it can be solved in a practical way without a lot of collateral damage.

Re: The .ing top-level domain

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Post by hleszek »

Apparently it is only possible to do a pre-registration of a domain name.

I just bought a .ing for 23,07€ / year on godaddy but someone else could still get that domain before me?

What happens in that case? Would I be refunded?

Re: The .ing top-level domain

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Post by mywittyname »

spurgu wrote: post #52
imbusy111 wrote: post #26

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Yes, they can demand you hand it over and you will hand it over.

That's insane to me. Edit: I kind of get it with .com domains, but all TLDs?

Pretty much. It is a trademark and holders have to defend against infringements if they want to keep it.

You might win in court/arbitration if you have a legitimate reason for owning the domain, but you're going to need deep pockets to pull it off and be willing to put up with the harassment of a company that has infinity money and wants to crush you for sport.

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