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Nokia to axe up to 14,000 jobs to cut costs

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Re: Nokia to axe up to 14,000 jobs to cut costs

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Post by thisisit »

For people who are unaware Nokia is working on Mobile Networks (5G Base stations etc), Network Infrastructure, Cloud Networking etc.

As for this move, from what I have heard from my friends working there it has been strange ongoings in Nokia. Earlier in the year people were being let go. There were hiring and travel freeze. All the while there was a costly rebranding exercise with new logo goodies being distributed to the employees. It made absolutely no sense to celebrate a rebrand while firing people.

As the article notes, words like cloud computing and AI are being thrown around. But many feel that the management has proven itself to be rather short sighted because there has been constant shifts in strategy - changing the business structure nearly every year to the rebranding just 2 Quarters ago.

Re: Nokia to axe up to 14,000 jobs to cut costs

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Post by lamontcg »

johnnyanmac wrote: post #122
user_named wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Within the context of HN that is 100% the wrong way to read it

is charitable interpretation dying out on HN as well? >Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith.

When someone states "it makes me wonder what they all do", it is perfectly clear what they're implying.

At some point being "charitable" or "assuming good faith" starts to look like being deliberately obtuse.

Re: Nokia to axe up to 14,000 jobs to cut costs

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Post by tgaj »

cinntaile wrote: post #121
tgaj wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So if you can't assess - why are you suprised about this particular number?

If I could accurately assess the number, what is left for me to be surprised about? I would have all the data.

You could be surprised that the real number is bigger or smaller than whatever you assessed.

Re: Nokia to axe up to 14,000 jobs to cut costs

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Post by johnnyanmac »

lamontcg wrote: post #132
johnnyanmac wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

is charitable interpretation dying out on HN as well? >Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith.

When someone states "it makes me wonder what they all do", it is perfectly clear what they're implying. At some point being "charitable" or "assuming good faith" starts to look like being deliberately obtuse.

Maybe on Reddit. Here, I instead did learn that Nokia still has a substantial worldwide stake in telecommunications, especially wireless. And that Nokia has much older origins than that dating back to selling rubber in the 19th century. even if their heyday of consumer products is long over, a few responses helped me see otherwise.

Regardless, the user already clarified their point so this is simply a thought exercise rather than a search for truth.

Re: Nokia to axe up to 14,000 jobs to cut costs

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Post by nsteel »

ekianjo wrote: post #32
ogjojo wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That and also refocus efforts on revenue producing products/departementets. I just hope Nokia has learned from their mistakes and don’t cut too much from their R&D.

There is R&D and R&D... If your internal R&D is amazingly useless and produces nothing marketable you are better off shrinking it

There's not much value in yet another reseller of Broadcom chipsets, they need to keep investing in their own product lines. However, I am pretty biased.

Re: Nokia to axe up to 14,000 jobs to cut costs

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Post by RecycledEle »

cornfutes wrote: post #30
RecycledEle wrote: post #16

A year before the first iPhone was released, I told Nokia they needed to take their N700 Internet Tablet, add voice calling and text messaging, and offer it in many screen sizes like 3", 4", 5", 6", and 7". If they had followed my advice instead of laughing at me they would still be the largest cell phone maker on planet Earth.

But the thing (n810) had WiMAX? I don’t think the problem was text/voice. The problem was that it had a resistive touch screen. Samsung already had touchscreen MP3 players that you can install apps on, but it was the capacitive touch at that price point that gave Apple a good 3+ year head start on software. At the time, being able to dial phone numbers with IPhone was mind blowing versus a resistive touch That’s what…

> But the thing (n810) had WiMAX? I don’t think the problem was text/voice

At the time, WiMax was not available in 99% of the US, so that was a non-starter for most of us.

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