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Re: Advent of Code 2023's new AI/LLM Policy

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Post by Suzuran » Tue, Oct 17, 2023, 1:01 PM UTC

lsy wrote: post #22

Maybe I'm a dinosaur but I'm utterly mystified by folks who are interested in making the leaderboard or even solving AoC puzzles with AI assistance. To me it feels like going to a 5k charity run, taking a motorcycle to the finish line, and parading your gold medal around. Like, who are you impressing? And are you even proud of yourself? I understand the appeal of using the best and fastest means when there are real-w…

Because it means I won and everything else lost. "Got mine, fuck you!" Everything is a zero-sum game when you are sufficiently competitive.

Re: Advent of Code 2023's new AI/LLM Policy

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Post by danjoredd » Tue, Oct 17, 2023, 10:19 PM UTC

tmtvl wrote: post #104

danjoredd wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For the same reason giving a 5 year old a calculator to "learn" addition doesn't teach them math. You still need to know why shit works in order to use it in a fully educated way. Otherwise you are just "putting magic words into the text editor" and your code will be held together with bailing wire and chewing gum. For day-to-day use, as long as you know what the code is doing when you run it, its fine. But to get to…

> For day-to-day use, as long as you know what the code is doing when you run it, its fine. I think that'd exclude most Python, Ruby, Java, JS, Haskell,... developers. Heck, it'd even exclude a bunch of C developers who don't appreciate the fact they're not working on a PDP-11.

Incorrect. While you might not understand the lower level systems, as long as you understand the logic of it you are good to go. Just plopping in code from ChatGPT or even Stack Overflow without vetting it is a dangerous game. You have to know what the code does before using it, or else the likelihood of introducing security vulnerabilities and bugs goes WAY up.

Re: Advent of Code 2023's new AI/LLM Policy

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Post by prometheon1 » Wed, Oct 18, 2023, 5:10 AM UTC

lsy wrote: post #22

Maybe I'm a dinosaur but I'm utterly mystified by folks who are interested in making the leaderboard or even solving AoC puzzles with AI assistance. To me it feels like going to a 5k charity run, taking a motorcycle to the finish line, and parading your gold medal around. Like, who are you impressing? And are you even proud of yourself? I understand the appeal of using the best and fastest means when there are real-w…

Are you saying we should not have motorcycle races? I agree that motorcyclists and runners should probably not compete in the same race, but there can be a competition where participants try to code the solution and another competition where participants try to build a machine that can code the solution at the same time.