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Re: Anti-Anti-Adblocker uBlock filter to get rid of the annoying YouTube message

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Post by unshavedyak »

mvdtnz wrote: post #94
jona-f wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We treat google how they treat us, as exploitive as possible.

You're just rationalising. You know it's not a defensible position.

I think it's somewhat defendable when youtube doesn't give you an option to pay for what you'd be "stealing". Overall i agree with you, but lets not pretend that Youtube doesn't feel exploitative in the corporate behavior here. Especially considering the data they're stealing from me, harvesting and selling, etc.

Ie show me the ads i'm missing, and let me pay for the view. It would be what, $3|5|7/m or w/e in value? Instead they're trying to strongarm you into an upcharge of $14/m for additional services. Show me the data they're harvesting from my viewing patterns and the added revenue they're getting from that. Tie that into my "cost" each month and reducing how much i owe.

But of course they won't do that. Because this isn't an exchange. This isn't a service we're paying for, it's a data harvest where they want to have their cake and eat it too. This is scummy in the same way that my music software, Spotify, is trying to expand revenue streams and shoving more crap (podcasts, audio books, etc) down my throat.

If Youtube isn't going to try and play fair then i'd rather leave (and will) than pay them.

Re: Anti-Anti-Adblocker uBlock filter to get rid of the annoying YouTube message

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Post by aiunboxed »

TerrifiedMouse wrote: post #121

I think the only "happy ending for everyone" if Google is going to ban ad-blockers for YouTube is if they make the ads less annoying. What makes YouTube's ads annoying: - the number of them 2 ads at the start is way too much. 1 max. Middle of video ads should be content creator controlled. - the ads they choose to show Google showing me the same few very annoying (to me) ads and gives me no option to avoid those spec…

And no ads in between of meditation videos

No ads when you are driving - since you can't skip them

Re: Anti-Anti-Adblocker uBlock filter to get rid of the annoying YouTube message

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Post by gruez »

Spivak wrote: post #115
mvdtnz wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're just rationalising. You know it's not a defensible position.

Sure it is, you're not even involved in the transaction. Just because someone pays Google to show an ad doesn't mean you have to look at it. USPS is funded by ads going through the mail and I throw them straight in the trash without remorse. I bet you do too. Bet you don't feel guilt about going to the bathroom or fast-forwarding your DVR during commercials either. Ad space is sold on the possibility that someone wil…

> Just because someone pays Google to show an ad doesn't mean you have to look at it

Just because someone has an internet connection doesn't mean google has to serve them videos, either.

Re: Anti-Anti-Adblocker uBlock filter to get rid of the annoying YouTube message

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Post by hotnfresh »

macinjosh wrote: post #78

I homelab a huggin instance to scrape my favorite channels for new videos and then send them to a ytdl like program. Then it dumps them in Jellyfin. No ads, and no rabbit holes :)

How are you organizing them in Jellyfin? Some popular ones have tvdb entries so it’s easy to just treat them as tv shows, but the rest are a problem. I tried the somewhat-neglected Youtube library-type plugin for it a while back, and don’t remember exactly what was wrong, but recall finding it worse than nothing.

Re: Anti-Anti-Adblocker uBlock filter to get rid of the annoying YouTube message

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Post by heavyset_go »

SteveNuts wrote: post #31
_huayra_ wrote: post #14

Maybe it's just A/B testing, but I got the "3 strikes and no more video playback" thing, which this DOM element blocking doesn't work around it seems :( After years of procrastinating, I'm finally gonna get around to setting up a basic homelab to run pihole. Thanks, youtube execs and bean counters, for kicking my lazy ass into gear on this! In a way, I kinda wish that ads worked as well as youtube suggestions. If one…

I'm pretty sure pihole doesn't block YouTube ads, they seem to be served server side but I could be wrong

This is the case.

Re: Anti-Anti-Adblocker uBlock filter to get rid of the annoying YouTube message

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Post by gruez »

thangalin wrote: post #130

Feel free to pilfer: ! 2023-10-14 https://www.youtube.com youtube.com##+js(set, yt.config_.openPopupConfig.supportedPopups.adBlockMessageViewModel, false) youtube.com##+js(set, Object.prototype.adBlocksFound, 0) youtube.com##+js(set, ytplayer.config.args.raw_player_response.adPlacements, []) youtube.com##+js(set, Object.prototype.hasAllowedInstreamAd, true) ! 2023-10-13 https://www.youtube.com www.youtube.com##.opene…

>Has Gorhill (uBO's developer) provided a better solution? If so, would someone mind posting the full and complete set of steps?

https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uAssets/issues/19976

Re: Anti-Anti-Adblocker uBlock filter to get rid of the annoying YouTube message

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Post by paulcole »

_huayra_ wrote: post #14

Maybe it's just A/B testing, but I got the "3 strikes and no more video playback" thing, which this DOM element blocking doesn't work around it seems :( After years of procrastinating, I'm finally gonna get around to setting up a basic homelab to run pihole. Thanks, youtube execs and bean counters, for kicking my lazy ass into gear on this! In a way, I kinda wish that ads worked as well as youtube suggestions. If one…

If you like watching YouTube videos just pay for YouTube Premium. It’s worth it.

Re: Anti-Anti-Adblocker uBlock filter to get rid of the annoying YouTube message

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Post by gruez »

unshavedyak wrote: post #131
mvdtnz wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're just rationalising. You know it's not a defensible position.

I think it's somewhat defendable when youtube doesn't give you an option to pay for what you'd be "stealing". Overall i agree with you, but lets not pretend that Youtube doesn't feel exploitative in the corporate behavior here. Especially considering the data they're stealing from me, harvesting and selling, etc. Ie show me the ads i'm missing, and let me pay for the view. It would be what, $3|5|7/m or w/e in value?…

>I think it's somewhat defendable when youtube doesn't give you an option to pay for what you'd be "stealing".

https://www.youtube.com/premium

Re: Anti-Anti-Adblocker uBlock filter to get rid of the annoying YouTube message

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Post by Brian_K_White »

acdha wrote: post #71
alwayslikethis wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At this point, I consider blocking ads to be a moral obligation. By giving in, you enable Youtube to abuse users further

Stealing is never a moral obligation. The only moral choices are not using YouTube or paying for it - and if you truly believe YouTube abuses users, you definitely shouldn’t be encouraging more people to use it, which your presence does by telling creators they get more traffic there.

Youtube are the ones stealing. I pay for premium, but people who don't and still block ads are not wrong.
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