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YouTube TV, which costs $73 a month, agrees to end "$600 less than cable" ads

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Re: YouTube TV, which costs $73 a month, agrees to end "$600 less than cable" ads

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I was an early cord cutter, maybe 10 years ago. Then I cut linear because we rarely watched it, and the promotion I had for directv streaming expired (was getting an amazing deal at $10 for directv stream, + hbo with the at&t unlimited mobile plan). I now only want linear tv for NFL, but I tried every which way to see how I could spend as little as possible, but I can't get it any cheaper than about $60/month. I am not spending that just to watch football. And then you also need prime for thursday. And something else for red zone. And you need to make sure you get ESPN. But not ESPN+ because that's worthless. And not NFL+, what the heck is that? It's all absurd and I hate it. I now use some free iptv sources to watch games. Quality isn't awesome, but the price is right. The way I see it, they have driven me to it.

Re: YouTube TV, which costs $73 a month, agrees to end "$600 less than cable" ads

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Baffled by the number of people itt saying "I can't believe it costs that much and still has ads." It can't not have ads. It's cable TV, YouTube has zero control over whether or not it has ads. They can't broadcast the USA network without ads. Cable has had ads for like 40 years, and traditional cable providers are much more expensive than this. Are y'all 14 years old? idgi

The in-program ad revenue is a huge part of YTTV and Google's business model. The sub costs mostly go to purchase the content.

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post #97

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While I like Nebula on premise, it seems creators on it are getting 'lazier' and some of the people on the site are downright questionable ("TL;DR News" and "Therapist Reacts" being the biggest offenders for me) Like, why am I paying Nebula for this garbage? https://i.imgur.com/itiLYbK.png

I think Little Joel is a treasure, personally He still does long-form well-researched videos if you're into that, too

Yeah don't be dunking on little joel. He's

Re: YouTube TV, which costs $73 a month, agrees to end "$600 less than cable" ads

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Just because lots of people seem to be getting confused, "pre-roll ad" isn't the right term for this. Pre-roll is one of those ads YouTube forces you to watch 5-30 seconds of before you can skip it, and when they play before the video starts. Mid-roll ads are the same thing, but interrupting the middle of the video. And Post-roll are ones that play after the video is over. What you're referring to are usually called…

Hopefully OP understands this, but I can confirm folks like my parents do not distinguish the difference. It's mind boggling

That's an implementation detail leak: for the end user it's just an advertisement. Call it as you want, but when I pay premium and you write "no ads" I want no ads. That's it.

I don't care that the content provider found a way to show ads. I have a contract with you - you have to figure it out.

Re: YouTube TV, which costs $73 a month, agrees to end "$600 less than cable" ads

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It's wild to me how much Youtube TV costs and yet they still serve you tons of ads. Coming from youtube premium where occasionally I have to skip through a preroll ad, I forget how much you are bombarded with ads while watching traditional TV. The fact that you have to pay the princely sum of $73/month on top of that boggles my mind. I canceled when they raised the price from $35/month and I'll never go back at these…

Just because lots of people seem to be getting confused, "pre-roll ad" isn't the right term for this. Pre-roll is one of those ads YouTube forces you to watch 5-30 seconds of before you can skip it, and when they play before the video starts. Mid-roll ads are the same thing, but interrupting the middle of the video. And Post-roll are ones that play after the video is over. What you're referring to are usually called…

Thanks for clarifying. I was worried that the parent was actually seeing real pre-roll ads with the subscription that would eventually get rolled out to everyone.

Re: YouTube TV, which costs $73 a month, agrees to end "$600 less than cable" ads

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I'd question the better image quality part of this, almost all broadcast providers have chosen to use their bandwidth to ship the maximum number of 480p subchannels.

You can question, or you can do the A/B test yourself and no longer have it as a question. Sure, they've sub-divided their bandwidth, but their flagship station still receives much more bandwidth than your cable provider. Just do the Amazon rental for a weekend. If you don't like it, return it. You'll see the difference.

This is very much a regional thing.

After the repack many markets have multiple HD channels sharing the bandwidth previously allocated for one OTA HD channel. In addition, as ATSC 3 is being deployed these channel sharing agreements are only becoming more common.

In addition, some cable providers are taking this over-compressed feed and compressing it further.

In many situations, streaming is the best option for picture quality now.

I did some comparisons in the Philadelphia market: https://www.somesortofweatherexperiment.com/tags/tv-source-p...

Even flagship events like the Super Bowl are not exempt to from low detail, compression artifact video in this market.

Re: YouTube TV, which costs $73 a month, agrees to end "$600 less than cable" ads

#137
post #11

It's wild to me how much Youtube TV costs and yet they still serve you tons of ads. Coming from youtube premium where occasionally I have to skip through a preroll ad, I forget how much you are bombarded with ads while watching traditional TV. The fact that you have to pay the princely sum of $73/month on top of that boggles my mind. I canceled when they raised the price from $35/month and I'll never go back at these…

Just because lots of people seem to be getting confused, "pre-roll ad" isn't the right term for this. Pre-roll is one of those ads YouTube forces you to watch 5-30 seconds of before you can skip it, and when they play before the video starts. Mid-roll ads are the same thing, but interrupting the middle of the video. And Post-roll are ones that play after the video is over. What you're referring to are usually called…

You can use SponsorBlock to skip those.

Re: YouTube TV, which costs $73 a month, agrees to end "$600 less than cable" ads

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post #134

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Hopefully OP understands this, but I can confirm folks like my parents do not distinguish the difference. It's mind boggling

That's an implementation detail leak: for the end user it's just an advertisement. Call it as you want, but when I pay premium and you write "no ads" I want no ads. That's it. I don't care that the content provider found a way to show ads. I have a contract with you - you have to figure it out.

Ah right, I forgot: they don't want to do content moderation, because then they become gatekeepers etc.

They just want our money. Twice.

Re: YouTube TV, which costs $73 a month, agrees to end "$600 less than cable" ads

#139
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do people still watch live TV? I’m only exposed it to when I stay in hotels and it seems to only be Seinfeld reruns and Shark Tank

It's for sports and news (which both earn many many eyes and are most satisfying when watched live), not so much for reality or scripted productions. Even if you like channel surfing among the latter, you can do that in most service-specific streaming apps now.

At least for news, something like [PBS NewsHour](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/) is available free for cord cutters. Sports, you're mostly looking at illicit streams from dodgy sites.

Re: YouTube TV, which costs $73 a month, agrees to end "$600 less than cable" ads

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post #134

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Hopefully OP understands this, but I can confirm folks like my parents do not distinguish the difference. It's mind boggling

That's an implementation detail leak: for the end user it's just an advertisement. Call it as you want, but when I pay premium and you write "no ads" I want no ads. That's it. I don't care that the content provider found a way to show ads. I have a contract with you - you have to figure it out.

Yeah, but life has never been that simple
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