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Re: Impacts of lack of sleep

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Post by InSteady »

desmosxxx wrote: post #87
madaxe_again wrote: post #78

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Yeah, we have separate beds - she sleeps in what was our room, I sleep on the couch, so I don’t disturb her when I get up to tend to the bairn. She, I feel reasonably, points out that it was not me that spent 10 months being pregnant with our child - and she sleeps extremely soundly, to the extent that she will sleep straight through screaming and crying more often than not, which means I have to be on alert, as I ne…

I'm sure you helped out while she was pregnant as well? Was she sleep deprived during pregnancy? This doesn't sound 'reasonable' to me.

Then definitely don't marry or have a child with that guy's wife.

Re: Impacts of lack of sleep

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Post by a96 »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #104
plorkyeran wrote: post #62

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A life changing thing for me was specifically scheduling time to do fun things in the morning before doing the things I have to do. If I wake up at six, I still don’t start my day until eight, and instead spend those two hours on things I otherwise would have done the night before. This broke the feeling of dreading mornings that lead to a negative spiral. Even if I know most of the day will be awful, if I can look f…

Wish this worked for me, but my brain straight up ignores[0] any kind of alarm clocks, music, light, etc. until it's something like 10:00 in the morning, or until a person wakes me up (and checks 5-10 minutes later if I'm actually up)[1]. So, shifting time to morning turned out to be impossible to maintain when I was living alone - I could hold such schedule for maybe a week at most, gradually oversleeping more and m…

Sounds familiar. There's probably some sort of pineal gland feature that makes this habitual shifting essentially impossible. You just get more and more sleep deprivation combined with lying in bed not sleeping.

My ex wife told me I'd once answered her phone call in the morning and had a complete conversation only speaking absolute nonsense until she hung up. I had no recollection of that at all.

Two things that might work in these cases are melatonin and bright "sun"light in the morning. These should control the natural circadian cycle. I haven't found success, yet, but haven't tried too hard since I can live with my schedule.

Re: Impacts of lack of sleep

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Post by a96 »

jmkd wrote: post #112
xyzelement wrote: post #31

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Quick advice - see if you can shift that to getting up earlier. You will probably spend the couple of hours in the morning in a way that sets you up for a better day vs staying up late sets you up for a bad tomorrow. I say this as an always "late" person who now tries to get up at 5 to work out and reflect, it's been very helpful.

I wish people would understand that "just get up early" simply does not and cannot work for a significant portion of the population (20-50% depending on which study you choose). Therefore it is aggravating advice to constantly receive, from those for whom it worked, to those for whom it won't.

"Have you tried not being depressed?"

"Thanks, I'm cured."

Re: Impacts of lack of sleep

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Post by drakonka »

Below have been my strategies to improve my sleep over the years:

* No coffee after 12.00 - No black tea after this time on most days either

* Peppermint tea a few hours before bed

* Magnesium before bed

* No alarm (I naturally wake up between 7 and 8am, though sometimes stay in bed for longer)

* Ereader in bed - reading helps put me to sleep

* Blackout curtains (a must in Swedish summer)

* Sometimes, visualizing scenes from whatever story I'm writing as I fall asleep. This can both help me get ideas for the story and help me fall asleep.

I am very bad with controlling screen time before bed and have pretty much given up on doing that at this point... For now. I still find myself waking up at 4am sometimes and then going back to sleep. It doesn't take long to get back, but it takes a lot of effort not to grab my phone and start scrolling in these times. If I must put my eyes on _something_, I try to make it my Kobo reader.

Re: Impacts of lack of sleep

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Post by sycren »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #104
plorkyeran wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A life changing thing for me was specifically scheduling time to do fun things in the morning before doing the things I have to do. If I wake up at six, I still don’t start my day until eight, and instead spend those two hours on things I otherwise would have done the night before. This broke the feeling of dreading mornings that lead to a negative spiral. Even if I know most of the day will be awful, if I can look f…

Wish this worked for me, but my brain straight up ignores[0] any kind of alarm clocks, music, light, etc. until it's something like 10:00 in the morning, or until a person wakes me up (and checks 5-10 minutes later if I'm actually up)[1]. So, shifting time to morning turned out to be impossible to maintain when I was living alone - I could hold such schedule for maybe a week at most, gradually oversleeping more and m…

Could devices to trigger other senses work? Like an aromatic diffuser on a timer switch that pumps out a scent, or a SAD lamp that simulates sunlight. A vibration device for the bed

Re: Impacts of lack of sleep

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Post by a96 »

otikik wrote: post #124
m463 wrote: post #113

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I created a bedtime nag program and it really helped, especially with hard deadlines like driving someone in the morning. 2 hours to bedtime, 1 hour to bedtime, 30 minutes, etc....

Can you expand on that? Is that just a bunch of alarms in your mobile phone, or something more ellaborate?

This sounds like something that would just add more stress to going to bed. But might help with the losing track of time problem.

Re: Impacts of lack of sleep

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Post by bratbag »

000ooo000 wrote: post #5

For me, I find my sleep suffers because of what some describe as "revenge bedtime procrastination". When my job is shit (i.e. now), I'm more inclined to stay on the PC later doing things that bring me some level of joy, or play games to escape the mind spinning its wheels. I seem to more easily recognise that my job is unfulfilling because I'm staying up later or I'm dreading going to bed. Going to bed early for a go…

I've also noticed the opposite.

During times when my job is satisfying and I'm on top of everything, I don't even want to touch my pc for fun.

Satisfying work drives me towards social activities in my free time.

Re: Impacts of lack of sleep

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Post by faeriechangling »

jmkd wrote: post #112
xyzelement wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Quick advice - see if you can shift that to getting up earlier. You will probably spend the couple of hours in the morning in a way that sets you up for a better day vs staying up late sets you up for a bad tomorrow. I say this as an always "late" person who now tries to get up at 5 to work out and reflect, it's been very helpful.

I wish people would understand that "just get up early" simply does not and cannot work for a significant portion of the population (20-50% depending on which study you choose). Therefore it is aggravating advice to constantly receive, from those for whom it worked, to those for whom it won't.

I suffered from delayed sleep phase syndrome for years and years. Root cause was undiagnosed health issues causing chronic pain and alertness.

Once I nailed down the problem all it took from there was a mere complete lifestyle change, once which takes constant discipline to maintain. Which I manage to maintain mostly because lapses in discipline result in me being slapped hard back to reality.

I was told to try melatonin so - many - times. I had so many printouts on sleep hygiene handed to me over the years. I was told repeatedly both to wake up early AND to restrict how long I spend in bed. Being told to wake up early was given The idea of doing a differential NEVER occurred to people as my sleep problems were obviously a result of my poor ethics and laziness and could be fixed with nothing more than an attitude adjustment.

The point of this all being, is to say I agree with you rather strongly.

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