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Re: Learn to read a binary font by reading a story

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This seems like it could actually be a real improvement on written Latin if it adopted a real phonetic alphabet. Just transposing all of my existing graphemes for new, smaller ones seems a little silly. (And since what you're really asking is not for people to learn a new alphabet, but to learn a new symbol for every word in their lexicon, it wouldn't be that much more of a leap. Think about it.) Thinking about it--…

There's simpel-fonetik, which is extremely intuitive. It's basically a mapping from IPA to latin letters. Example: When you read Simpel-Fonetik words, you must pay attention to each letter. Remember: each letter has always the same sound, the sound given in the Simpel-Fonetik alphabet, regardless what letter is next to it. And here it is re-written in Simpel-Fonetik: Wen ju riid Simpel-Fonetik wörds, ju mast pei äten…

In case anyone else was wondering why it is still "is" and not "iz" in Simpel Fonetik, and how they justify "sh" as being composed of "s" and "h", the FAQ actually answers that.

I disagree about the 's', but otherwise I like it.

German's most newbie-ish computer magazine, Computer Bild, actually uses a pretty system to explain the pronunciation of IT terms to the layman.

Re: Learn to read a binary font by reading a story

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I've been learning Hangul recently, and now every language that doesn't encode syllables into the writing system just seems immensely flawed to me. Hangul seems like a very intuitive, logical writing system. There are relatively few exceptions to the rules it sets out, though I think that's likely because it's such a young language -- more and more seem to be creeping in over time as dialects evolve.

> I think that's likely because it's such a young language Do you mean language or writing system? Hangul is ~500 years old, comparatively new for a somewhat widely used writing system, though it's an odd case given that it's not really adapted from another system. The Korean language itself is much older.

Yes, sorry, I meant the writing system.

Re: Learn to read a binary font by reading a story

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Not really. Greek has a phonetic alphabet, and we're doing fine with accents. You just standardize words and spell them in one way, and the people speaking the dialect just spell them the same, even knowing they sound different. It's not a problem, and you can even emulate the accent in writing for whatever purpose.

Cool, I didn't realise that Greek was a phonetic alphabet! I think there is a difference between an alphabet that one uses from birth, and one that you try to teach to adults. In the former case, you're starting from scratch. In the latter case, you've got your old alphabet confusing things. Evidently, phonetic alphabets are possible; but for an adult to learn to use one it would take practice and effort, and many pe…

That's true, but everyone is resistant to everything. A problem with English is that there are more homophones than there are in Greek. When you see a Greek word, you can pronounce it and, in the vast majority of times, you know what it means. Not so in English, where there are many more homophones. Context helps, though.

Re: Learn to read a binary font by reading a story

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post #33

This seems like it could actually be a real improvement on written Latin if it adopted a real phonetic alphabet. Just transposing all of my existing graphemes for new, smaller ones seems a little silly. (And since what you're really asking is not for people to learn a new alphabet, but to learn a new symbol for every word in their lexicon, it wouldn't be that much more of a leap. Think about it.) Thinking about it--…

I'm going to school right now to become a court reporter / stenographer. Basically, I type on a funny looking keyboard ( http://www.acculaw.com/images/products/display/stenograph%20... ) where you're not so much typing letters as much as you're typing sounds. So the word "talk", for example would be written "tauk", with each letter of the word pressed at the same time (if possible. Some words you need to come back fo…

I can write 225 words a minute with a normal keyboard. According to http://speedtest.10fastfingers.com/ anyway.

Re: Learn to read a binary font by reading a story

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> I think that's likely because it's such a young language Do you mean language or writing system? Hangul is ~500 years old, comparatively new for a somewhat widely used writing system, though it's an odd case given that it's not really adapted from another system. The Korean language itself is much older.

Yes, sorry, I meant the writing system.

I'm sorry for being a pedantic d-bag.
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