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Eliminating radio interference from Apple charger

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Re: Eliminating radio interference from Apple charger

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where can one buy a bag of ferrites?

There are several options from Amazon, try searching for "Clip-on Ferrite Ring".

I know; i hoped for a site that sells all the types of rings, binocular, clip-on - which are great for choking VHF vertical dipoles with the bottom leg being spokes that are obviously too short for the frequency - i digress.

I'm also just grown weary of amazon.

Re: Eliminating radio interference from Apple charger

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Apple have form for some very odd stray vibrations around their macbook and being on charge. It's a not-electric-but-you-think-it-is thing around soft-touching their brushed aluminium case, sometimes.

The "gosh, this is hot" thing when its on charge has been an issue from time to time, as the magsafe ages out, or some component on the mac board. Apparently its caused by HF on top of the desired DC, leaking out the componentry somehow as mechanical vibration.

Re: Eliminating radio interference from Apple charger

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post #132

Apple have form for some very odd stray vibrations around their macbook and being on charge. It's a not-electric-but-you-think-it-is thing around soft-touching their brushed aluminium case, sometimes. The "gosh, this is hot" thing when its on charge has been an issue from time to time, as the magsafe ages out, or some component on the mac board. Apparently its caused by HF on top of the desired DC, leaking out the co…

It is electric, and it happens when you're on ungrounded AC.

Re: Eliminating radio interference from Apple charger

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post #132

Apple have form for some very odd stray vibrations around their macbook and being on charge. It's a not-electric-but-you-think-it-is thing around soft-touching their brushed aluminium case, sometimes. The "gosh, this is hot" thing when its on charge has been an issue from time to time, as the magsafe ages out, or some component on the mac board. Apparently its caused by HF on top of the desired DC, leaking out the co…

It's just a grounding issue, just that you feel the 50/60hz and your skin detects it as a weird texture/vibration.

I think the periodic electric impulses may be interpreted by your brain as a fake stick-slip phenomenon and change how the texture feels.

See: https://superuser.com/questions/462244/electric-shock-mild-v...

Re: Eliminating radio interference from Apple charger

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post #132

Apple have form for some very odd stray vibrations around their macbook and being on charge. It's a not-electric-but-you-think-it-is thing around soft-touching their brushed aluminium case, sometimes. The "gosh, this is hot" thing when its on charge has been an issue from time to time, as the magsafe ages out, or some component on the mac board. Apparently its caused by HF on top of the desired DC, leaking out the co…

It is electric, and it happens when you're on ungrounded AC.

The write ups I've read said it was a microvibration on the board, not leakage into you. Its origin is electric no matter what.

Re: Eliminating radio interference from Apple charger

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post #132

Apple have form for some very odd stray vibrations around their macbook and being on charge. It's a not-electric-but-you-think-it-is thing around soft-touching their brushed aluminium case, sometimes. The "gosh, this is hot" thing when its on charge has been an issue from time to time, as the magsafe ages out, or some component on the mac board. Apparently its caused by HF on top of the desired DC, leaking out the co…

It is electric, and it happens when you're on ungrounded AC.

And happens also on multiple DELL laptops I used/touched.

Re: Eliminating radio interference from Apple charger

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MagSafe® is a registered trademark of Apple Inc., so if they call it a MagSafe® charger, it's a MagSafe® charger. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MagSafe_(wireless_charger)

Gonna hit back with "nope". If Kleenex gets into toilet paper and tell you that toilet paper is now kleenex, the response is "you clearly don't what what the hell you're talking about, get your head out your ass". Magsafe is a magnetic power connector that clicks into a socket, whether Apple sticks their head up their ass or not.

> Magsafe is a magnetic power connector that clicks into a socket,

Wikipedia on MagSafe (wireless charger)

> MagSafe is a proprietary, *magnetically attached* wireless power transfer

That probably means I can talk with my phone while wireless charger hangs on to the back of the phone?!

Re: Eliminating radio interference from Apple charger

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post #5

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Honestly, I’d rather my electronics cause some noise on a frequency I never use than have a ferrite bead on every USB cable under the sun. Seems like the author resolved the problem at minimal cost and effort.

The author's minimal effort was facilitated by his access to specialized equipment and time researching the issue. And as others have mentioned, Apple could have placed a small ferrite on the power supply PCB to achieve the same effect.

> The author's minimal effort

The minimal effort included hours of studying electrical engineering and radio technology at university including all the math and physics needed. Studying for amateur radio license. And after founding this issue delving deep into radio interference literature and datasheets of various components. Then setting up a test environment to replicate the issue and do tests trying to eliminate the interference. After a success write a blog post describing the solution in short and hopefully interesting way.

Re: Eliminating radio interference from Apple charger

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post #10

> This radio interference was also present on the aviation frequencies (around 124 MHz) How did this thing get FCC approval? What's it's FCC approval number? Who tested this thing? Want to look that up. If RF got outside the charger and into the USB cable, it's very badly designed. The power in the USB cable is DC. There shouldn't be any significant RF component. There should be ferrite beads and capacitors in the po…

> a pilot charging an Ipad in an aircraft.[1]

Fascinating. No wonders we have so much red tape on stuff that is in the air.

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