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For $1 B/liter, I'll happily ride along if that's what's needed to make me the end user of it.
Haha well if at least more people are traveling when those private jets fly, it's not all lost ;)
Celebrity Flights
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Celebrities probably order from Amazon too.
> I mean it's one banana, Michael. What could it cost? Ten dollars? If you had people to do that for you, why would you do that yourself? You tell your personal assistant to get a new iphone for you, new drapes for the living room, whatever.
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My friendly neighbourhood Amazon driver fills his vehicle with packages, then drives a highly optimised route to deliver those packages to many destinations along the fastest/shortest route. Often when I'm tracking my package, I see that the twenty or thirty deliveries before me are all within a mile or two of my house. At some point soon I expect he'll get an electric van, but other than that, I'm not sure how anyon…
I mean, bicycles would be more efficient. Not faster or requiring less employees, but less emissions.
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Well, I'm glad we're finally on the same page that you are in fact specifically defending top-consuming billionaires. Conversation ends here
Oh I'm sorry asking you to backup your thoughts with actual data is a problem for you. Just out of curiosity I took what seems to be the "average" of the reported number of billionaires in America as 800, and the average yearly CO2 from flying via the linked article at a high point of also say 800 tons (which is likely high but easy math). That works out to 640000 tons of CO2 from all the billionaires flying around i…
This is not about the percentage of CO2 over the total.
People don't want to be chastised by hypocrites, it's the same as a President who declares that "heavy human losses are a price to pay for victory" and then exempts his 2 sons from serving.
2 soldiers are nothing in the face of a National military mobilization for a war, but nonetheless the public opinion would rightfully be enraged as soon as the reports come out about how the President's sons are draft dodgers.
And in a country that has institutions that work as it should they are grounds for removal.
Similarly emitting 1000 tons or even just 1 ton of CO2 in the environment should be ground for removal from the public discourse about climate change.
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Fair enough, but as you say, doesn't change anything, possibly even makes it worse because that fuel was used entirely for his convenience just to move a plane closer, before he even hopped aboard for his flight.
Commercial airlines routinely move planes from JFK to LGA at night. There is a popular ATC recording of one not having the paperwork to fly IFR, so they want VFR instead. Mildly amusing twist on a common operation.
VFR- "Visual Flight Rules"
Source- https://atpflightschool.com/become-a-pilot/flight-training/v...
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Looking at her flight log, my guess is the jet she owns is run by a company that rents it out to other people. If that’s not the case, I have no idea why anyone would fly from Atlanta to Savannah and then depart again 2 hours later. Must be rented out to others
There's a concept called the "$100-dollar hamburger" in aviation, which is where one takes an otherwise-unnecessary trip for aviation reasons (i.e. maintaining minimum flight time for qualifications, shaking down a plane after maintenance, etc.). Atlanta -> Savannah -> Atlanta with a 2-hour turnaround could be hundred-dollar hamburger. It might also be two different people using the jet. But... TBH, it might also be…
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I think there's a hard public interest in tracking flights. They're so safe these days that we can kind of forget that we're talking about moving multi-ton vehicles over people's homes, churches, and schools, where anything going wrong can result in significant loss of life and property damage... At the very least, I want to know who and when as a societal tradeoff for the privilege of using the air over our heads fr…
Your argument applies equally to cars. For a low price per car we could track all cars and also ensure they don't break a bunch of rules (say speed, acceleration, traffic lights) where drivers endanger others.
(Of course, every car has a license plate and if somebody were to establish an infrastructure for tracking all of those plates and correlating it to motion of vehicles... I'm actually not against that. I'm of the personal opinion that we are far too deferential to drivers and do not demand nearly enough responsibility from them, and the fatality rates on roads are demonstrative of this).