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Bedbug crisis sparks political row in Paris as insect ‘scourge’ continues

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Post by Amezarak »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #108
Amezarak wrote: post #104

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> Cities long ago stopped approving small motels to be built, I wish they had, but that's not true anywhere I've lived.

I’m in the US, I have not seen a single new hotel in the last few decades that was not minimum 3 stories and indoor. The numbers do not pencil out for anything less than 60 to 80 rooms, and cities do not want the cheap local motels that end up catering to drug users/prostitutes/etc. A motel 6 would be the lowest quality tier I think.

I'm in the US and I've see plenty of them built recently, which have exactly all the problems you mention, which is why I'd rather them not.

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Post by the-dude »

sethammons wrote: post #37
developer93 wrote: post #27

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Gonna go back to the days where the company owned your accommodation & you had a house as long as you had the job?

I'm hearing more and more about it. Company stores and company towns. Nope, nothing to learn from historically here at all.

There are plenty of good examples of company provided housing in The Netherlands, early 20th century.

The Netherlands can't be the only country where it did work out.

I was born and raised in a beautiful company built neighbourhood. Small but decent houses, a school, some shops and enough room for some 'green'.

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eastbound wrote: post #107
littlestymaar wrote: post #88

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Re: Bedbug crisis sparks political row in Paris as insect ‘scourge’ continues

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Post by fuzzfactor »

littlestymaar wrote: post #81
lotsofpulp wrote: post #59

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I assumed it was cancer causing insecticides like DDT or something.

DDT ban is often cited, but it's an insufficient explanation: first of all there are still efficient insecticides available, and bedbugs infestations only reappeared many decades after DDT was banned. The most important causes is the massive increase in travel/tourism (airbnb is often pointed, but regular hotels are where it started) then come the increasing cost of labor (Baumol's costs disease) + higher safety stan…

I think the most technically advanced and affluent societies were capable of utilizing the very powerful mid-century insecticides, not only DDT, to almost completely wipe out bedbugs from domestic environments for quite some time afterward.

Decades later with no comparable eradication strategy, and once world travel increased exponentially, they have been reintroduced from parts of the world where they have always thrived.

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Post by fuzzfactor »

pnpnp wrote: post #92
littlestymaar wrote: post #81

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DDT ban is often cited, but it's an insufficient explanation: first of all there are still efficient insecticides available, and bedbugs infestations only reappeared many decades after DDT was banned. The most important causes is the massive increase in travel/tourism (airbnb is often pointed, but regular hotels are where it started) then come the increasing cost of labor (Baumol's costs disease) + higher safety stan…

For people downvoting this comment: why?

Seems to me it's about the most mindless way to show disapproval without having anything worthwhile to offer.

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Post by dvhh »

littlestymaar wrote: post #84
dvhh wrote: post #73

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The risk of being either slapped or punched in the face on a daily basis, would certainly prevent most politicians to mingle with regular people.

Macron could take the public transport any day, he would just need to close it to the public.

montjoie st denis !!!

Re: Bedbug crisis sparks political row in Paris as insect ‘scourge’ continues

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Post by developer93 »

the-dude wrote: post #132
sethammons wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm hearing more and more about it. Company stores and company towns. Nope, nothing to learn from historically here at all.

There are plenty of good examples of company provided housing in The Netherlands, early 20th century. The Netherlands can't be the only country where it did work out. I was born and raised in a beautiful company built neighbourhood. Small but decent houses, a school, some shops and enough room for some 'green'.

Bournville in UK is another example. It was definitely a step up at the time, but I feel like conditions are somewhat better an century and a half later and if they would be going back to where losing your house with your job is an acceptable risk, it would now be a step down.
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