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Re: Volkswagen cuts jobs as demand for EVs plunges

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Post by oblio »

drumhead wrote: post #21

The EU will do what they did when the Japanese car industry was about to crush it, they'll slap tariffs on Chinese EV imports to protect Thier domestic industry until they're in a position to be competitive.

> The EU will do what they did when the Japanese car industry was about to crush it, they'll slap tariffs on Chinese EV imports to protect Thier domestic industry until they're in a position to be competitive.

Yes, the US would never, ever...

Oh, wait! They did:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntary_export_restraint#198...

https://www.jec.senate.gov/reports/99th%20Congress/The%20Leg...

Re: Volkswagen cuts jobs as demand for EVs plunges

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Post by axpy »

yieldcrv wrote: post #54
thatfrenchguy wrote: post #47

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This is not an issue in Europe fwiw, all cars use CCS2 there. In most european cities you probably have a parking garage if you have a car (and sure you have to deal with the HOA), street parking is an absolute nightmare there.

nice, yeah the US government is mandating something like that and simultaneously Tesla is opening their charging system to others (because of US government sentiment that will turn into pressure) seems like they’ll both happen at the same time

I think we also have to force chargers to accept simple means of payment like a credit card. Imagine how ridiculous it would be it we had to create an account for every single gas station network. This would also take care of when you are outside of cell coverage. Yes there are aggregator that works on multiple networks but you still have to track what is in/out network and in case of emergency. The current state of the charging infra is really not up to the task.

Re: Volkswagen cuts jobs as demand for EVs plunges

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Post by axpy »

sircastor wrote: post #55
bilsbie wrote: post #35

Range and price still holding me back. I’d love to own one otherwise.

I’d encourage you to log your actual driving for a week or two, along with how long your vehicle sits idle. Most range anxiety (IMO) is a supposed of opportunity cost rather than actual risk. Like companies assuming piracy is equal to a lost sale. It might be true in some cases, but not all. Also, most late model EVs offer a couple hundred miles on a single charge.

That and also most people want the biggest battery for road trip and stuffs but fail to realize that the bigger battery only help you on the first leg of the trip as once you need to stop, you are limited by charging speed and not the battery size. When I bough mine, the dealer obviously was pushing for the big battery but after looking at longer trip planning in ABRP, I realize that the difference between the big and small battery was basically a few minutes for a 6h trip.

Re: Volkswagen cuts jobs as demand for EVs plunges

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Post by distances »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #127
distances wrote: post #37

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Also interestingly, in Europe teachers usually earn much more than nurses.

Because unions.

No, nurses are of course also unionised. Teachers are higher educated and traditionally a highly respected profession.

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Post by deaddodo »

bluedino wrote: post #116
deaddodo wrote: post #85

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The comparison here is so vague as to be useless. There are 4 categories of nurse, and I can assure you that A) a CNA and RN (let alone an APRN) are very different jobs with different requirements and wage/salary brackets and that B) K-12 wages and requirements also vary drastically. A CNA (the second most common "nurse") most assuredly does not earn more than the average High School teacher, let alone one with any s…

I have never heard of anyone referring to a CNA (certified nursing assistant) as a 'nurse' What most people mean by 'nurse' is an RN (registered nurse)

> I have never heard of anyone referring to a CNA (certified nursing assistant) as a 'nurse'

Because you represent 100%, or even a significant minority, of Americans. /s

> What most people mean by 'nurse' is an RN (registered nurse)

No, what you mean is that what most people encounter are RNs.

The people that encounter CNAs almost definitely consider them nurses.

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Post by _hypx »

Turskarama wrote: post #128
_hypx wrote: post #110

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BEVs are a dead end technology because they are far more expensive than the cars they are replacing. There is no way this market is going to survive once the subsidies and government support ends. People with brains are finally realizing that it is time to move on and towards some other technology.

I think we will end up pulling back towards PHEVs (or range extended EVs). You can have literally 1/4 of the battery and still never use fossil fuels for 90% of journeys. You don't get to have as much power, but EVs are more powerful than necessary anyway.

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Re: Volkswagen cuts jobs as demand for EVs plunges

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Post by Fervicus »

b112 wrote: post #94
Fervicus wrote: post #61

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> rates have mostly peaked What is this based on? I am not so sure if I believe that. Canada's inflation rate jumped to 4% last month (although a lot of that was apparently due to an increase in gasoline prices).

It is not 4% per month, that is the yearly rate, as a current value. And it didn't "jump", it went up a tiny bit. Target inflation for the Bank of Canada is around 2% yearly. The bank did not increase rates the last round, and inflation is dramatically down from a year ago. It wants to ensure it doesn't over correct.

Fair points and I stand corrected in some of my wording. But that still doesn't explain why rates have "mostly peaked". It is equally possible that we are nowhere near the peak.

Re: Volkswagen cuts jobs as demand for EVs plunges

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Post by b112 »

Fervicus wrote: post #137
b112 wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is not 4% per month, that is the yearly rate, as a current value. And it didn't "jump", it went up a tiny bit. Target inflation for the Bank of Canada is around 2% yearly. The bank did not increase rates the last round, and inflation is dramatically down from a year ago. It wants to ensure it doesn't over correct.

Fair points and I stand corrected in some of my wording. But that still doesn't explain why rates have "mostly peaked". It is equally possible that we are nowhere near the peak.

Many infatuationary pressures have eased. I could write a bunch of things here, but you'd get a better look if you googled on why the bank of canada has eased off a bit on rate increases.

Of course, the future is an unknown, but inflation is about half what it was a year ago.

Heck, there has been some talk of deflation! A lot of stuff peaked due to supply, and those prices could drop dramatically.

Re: Volkswagen cuts jobs as demand for EVs plunges

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Post by Fervicus »

b112 wrote: post #138
Fervicus wrote: post #137

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Fair points and I stand corrected in some of my wording. But that still doesn't explain why rates have "mostly peaked". It is equally possible that we are nowhere near the peak.

Many infatuationary pressures have eased. I could write a bunch of things here, but you'd get a better look if you googled on why the bank of canada has eased off a bit on rate increases. Of course, the future is an unknown, but inflation is about half what it was a year ago. Heck, there has been some talk of deflation! A lot of stuff peaked due to supply, and those prices could drop dramatically.

I speculate that we will be seeing more hikes. But I have been wrong before :)

Re: Volkswagen cuts jobs as demand for EVs plunges

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Post by b112 »

Fervicus wrote: post #139
b112 wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many infatuationary pressures have eased. I could write a bunch of things here, but you'd get a better look if you googled on why the bank of canada has eased off a bit on rate increases. Of course, the future is an unknown, but inflation is about half what it was a year ago. Heck, there has been some talk of deflation! A lot of stuff peaked due to supply, and those prices could drop dramatically.

I speculate that we will be seeing more hikes. But I have been wrong before :)

That's why I said "mostly peaked". But rather than large jumps every announcement, I suspect we'll skip some, and only have small, quarter point corrections. Maybe one in October, and in the spring.

This indicates a soft landing, but I agree, we'll see. Anything could happen.

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