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Re: Meta deletes Al Jazeera presenter’s profile after show criticising Israel

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Post by qwytw »

WeylandYutani wrote: post #121
trilbyglens wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's also a lot of wacky christian folklore that is very popular in evangelical America that has to do with Israel being involved in the "end days". Some nutjobs feel that a strong Israeli state will hasten the rapture or some nonsense like that. There are a good number of those folk in elected positions, but also the evangelical crowd is inordinately influential in US politics, so it weasels it's way into many di…

Is it nonsense if half of Americans believe it? I live in a post religious society and it's easy to forget that these things still matter for the rest of the planet.

> Is it nonsense if half of Americans believe it?

They don't though and there are way more sensible reasons which would explain US support for Israel.

Re: Meta deletes Al Jazeera presenter’s profile after show criticising Israel

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Post by 221qqwe »

ethanbond wrote: post #113
trilbyglens wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's also a lot of wacky christian folklore that is very popular in evangelical America that has to do with Israel being involved in the "end days". Some nutjobs feel that a strong Israeli state will hasten the rapture or some nonsense like that. There are a good number of those folk in elected positions, but also the evangelical crowd is inordinately influential in US politics, so it weasels it's way into many di…

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It might be the answer on Reddit where any meaningful discussion is usually impossible and the most absurd sounding claims are upvoted.

Do we also have to do it here?

Re: Meta deletes Al Jazeera presenter’s profile after show criticising Israel

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Post by bmicraft »

tamimio wrote: post #122

So the journalist makes a documentary about how Facebook censors people, and a day later he gets censored, I think that just makes his documentary stronger! Also, when the internet will ever learn, if you try to censor something you will just give it more exposure, I personally would never know about this documentary but now I will watch it.

The Streisand effect works when people try to hide information, I'm not so sure it will work against companies as big as Facebook

Re: Meta deletes Al Jazeera presenter’s profile after show criticising Israel

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Post by qwytw »

bmicraft wrote: post #129
qzx_pierri wrote: post #124

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>Is it nonsense if half of Americans believe it? https://owl.excelsior.edu/argument-and-critical-thinking/log...

I think what they meant to say is not that this isn't nonsense, but that it can't simply be discarded as nonsense when such a big part of the country believes it.

I have no reason to think that the number of people who believe that "strong Israeli state will hasten the rapture" is not in the single digits (%) or more likely even way less than that.

Re: Meta deletes Al Jazeera presenter’s profile after show criticising Israel

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Post by bmicraft »

belter wrote: post #94
_aaed wrote: post #10

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This has no English subtitles

Not from YouTube but there are some free services. "How to Translate YouTube Videos for Free" - https://www.kapwing.com/resources/how-to-translate-youtube-v...

Or alternatively you could give as a short summary of why you posted the link?

Re: Meta deletes Al Jazeera presenter’s profile after show criticising Israel

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Post by SauciestGNU »

richbell wrote: post #127
ethanbond wrote: post #115

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Nope. It’s eschatological Christians who back Israel. Has nothing to do with protecting Jews and everything to do with evangelical Christians’ end times prophecy. The world’s largest military has made decades of foreign policy decisions in accordance with these people’s doomsday fetish.

I'm not sure how you can definitively say "nope". It could just as easily be both, or a third reason.

Yeah I'm not sure about "nope", but I certainly think it's a mistake to assume Jewish people support Israeli government policies.

Re: Meta deletes Al Jazeera presenter’s profile after show criticising Israel

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Post by weregiraffe »

throwaway914 wrote: post #19

I know I'm naive: I don't understand why US companies are so sensitive to respecting Israel. I don't know why our gov is so sensitive to this either. Israel - like all countries - deserves criticism, no? This can't purely be about respecting the billions spent on US weapons to defend Israel, right? I genuinely do not understand, because I think they'd happily buy from the military anyway.

The Western world has a 2000+ years long history of antisemitism (starting back in the Hellenistic era when the Mediterranean polytheist majority was not amused by Jewish minority strict monotheism, and vice versa). Every criticism of Israel must be viewed in that light, because 95% of it is just the endlessly rehashed antisemitism.

Re: Meta deletes Al Jazeera presenter’s profile after show criticising Israel

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Post by llamaimperative »

221qqwe wrote: post #132
ethanbond wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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It might be the answer on Reddit where any meaningful discussion is usually impossible and the most absurd sounding claims are upvoted. Do we also have to do it here?

It’s interesting when people over-intellectualize to the extent that they literally disbelieve that people believe their own proclaimed religion.

The Christian doomsday mythologies are extremely clear and extremely broadly believed among a core US right wing power center, the Evangelicals.

I suppose it’s up to you if you’d like to believe that 1) Evangelicals don’t believe what they claim to believe or 2) they do believe Israel is critical to their own rising to an infinite utopia but they choose not to make policy decisions based on that belief.

Re: Meta deletes Al Jazeera presenter’s profile after show criticising Israel

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Post by SauciestGNU »

WeylandYutani wrote: post #121
trilbyglens wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's also a lot of wacky christian folklore that is very popular in evangelical America that has to do with Israel being involved in the "end days". Some nutjobs feel that a strong Israeli state will hasten the rapture or some nonsense like that. There are a good number of those folk in elected positions, but also the evangelical crowd is inordinately influential in US politics, so it weasels it's way into many di…

Is it nonsense if half of Americans believe it? I live in a post religious society and it's easy to forget that these things still matter for the rest of the planet.

Facts are not consensus based. It's complete nonsense.

Re: Meta deletes Al Jazeera presenter’s profile after show criticising Israel

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Post by ralusek »

ta2234234242 wrote: post #59
throwaway914 wrote: post #19

I know I'm naive: I don't understand why US companies are so sensitive to respecting Israel. I don't know why our gov is so sensitive to this either. Israel - like all countries - deserves criticism, no? This can't purely be about respecting the billions spent on US weapons to defend Israel, right? I genuinely do not understand, because I think they'd happily buy from the military anyway.

> Israel - like all countries - deserves criticism, no? Maybe go look up Jonathan Pollard. If Israel is our close friend, why would they need to spy on us? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Pollard https://www.military.com/history/jonathan-pollard-was-one-of...

US spies on itself and everyone else.
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