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Microsoft is using malware-like pop-ups in Win11 to get people to ditch Chrome

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post #87

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We should ban advertising with only very narrow exceptions.

No exceptions, particularly when it comes to your operating systems. Apple does it. Canonical does it. Windows does it. Google does it (kinda a duh, I agree). Stop this madness.

I think parent meant ban all advertising - buses, billboards, TV, etc

Re: Microsoft is using malware-like pop-ups in Win11 to get people to ditch Chrome

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My gaming PC is Windows 11 and if I didn't just turn it on to play a game then shut it off when I was done, I would at least downgrade to Windows 10 if not go full Ubuntu. Constant popups, Edge is garbage, I won't have any complaints that haven't been enumerated by people more articulate than I am. But it's shocking that in an OS you pay for, it seems like an ad-riddled iOS app put together by second-rate UX designers.

Even though 99% of the developers at Microsoft don't have anything to do with Windows, it's so bad I would never apply for a job there strictly based on the association. It's terrible.

Re: Microsoft is using malware-like pop-ups in Win11 to get people to ditch Chrome

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Microsoft confuses me. They’ve been building up all this goodwill with frankly outstanding software and services. Then… they go and ruin it all with windows. What the heck is going on over there? Whoever leads that division probably needs to be replaced.

I’ve heard installing windows with language set to English Europe or world makes the experience a lot better. Is that true?

Re: Microsoft is using malware-like pop-ups in Win11 to get people to ditch Chrome

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No exceptions, particularly when it comes to your operating systems. Apple does it. Canonical does it. Windows does it. Google does it (kinda a duh, I agree). Stop this madness.

I think parent meant ban all advertising - buses, billboards, TV, etc

Yes, I mean all advertisement, with exceptions like being able advertise on a business's own premises or upon explicit request like signing up for a newsletter (on purpose, not due to dark pattern fuckery). But no jamming third party advertisements everywhere imaginable or first party advertisement into products that aren't just ads.

Re: Microsoft is using malware-like pop-ups in Win11 to get people to ditch Chrome

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post #78

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I disagree with the idea of leaving negative reviews just because a game doesn’t support a specific platform. It’s the same toxic fanboy wars we see if a game doesn’t come out on a specific console or available on a specific store. Doing so costs money for a small portion of the community. Ultimately these studios are businesses and have to make financial choices. I do fully recognize that this is a chicken and the e…

I paid for a product and I expect that product to at least not intentionally restrict use on proton. If you intentionally restrict its use on whatever platform i see fit then you are getting a negative review. The wine folks and valve have put serious effort into patching your product to work on linux, but when you actively undermine their effort and intentionally limit its use - either by banning players on linux or…

The problem is that the more people buy Steam Decks, the less understanding the average Linux gamer will be of bugs.

For every hardcore Linux gamer who would leave a negative review on a game because it's not available on their platform, there will be several regular gamers who would leave a negative review because it doesn't work well on the Steam Deck. Enabling Linux support without actually working at supporting it for real is a risk that game studios rightly avoid.

Steam could probably help with this by giving you a way to bypass the publisher's recommendation with lots of warnings (and maybe disabling negative reviews if you do), but that that doesn't exist is on Steam, not the publisher.

Re: Microsoft is using malware-like pop-ups in Win11 to get people to ditch Chrome

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post #123

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Well, you paid (one way or another) to license Windows, which allows you to use applications on it including web browsers. They are deliberately interfering with your choice of using someone else's web browser, and they are doing so for reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with the functional considerations of their product. In a normal world this would attract legal scrutiny given their history (and in the EU,…

Google did all of the above? Hobbled Firefox on YouTube via ShadowDOM and polyfill? Hobbled internet explorer on windows mobile for both YouTube and google maps. Google on iOS and android does the same shitty nonsense as Microsoft here.

As I said: I was by no means saying it didn’t happen. But that wasn’t the argument being made that I was responding to.

Re: Microsoft is using malware-like pop-ups in Win11 to get people to ditch Chrome

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No exceptions, particularly when it comes to your operating systems. Apple does it. Canonical does it. Windows does it. Google does it (kinda a duh, I agree). Stop this madness.

I think parent meant ban all advertising - buses, billboards, TV, etc

I have to be honest, it doesn't change my answer.

Advertising is a multi-billion dollar industry who spends millions yearly on figuring out how to manipulate us into buying things we don't need. The average person has no chance against this manipulation.

So yes, burn it all to the ground.

Re: Microsoft is using malware-like pop-ups in Win11 to get people to ditch Chrome

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post #53

I'm a big fan of WSL, which has kept me on Windows for years more than I otherwise would have. But I can't stand the scammy adware infused OS Windows has become and will be moving to Apple Silicon full-time when the next gen M3 Desktop hardware is out. As a recent M2 Macbook Air owner I'm surprised how much software supports ARM/Apple Silicon natively, where everything I use daily as a .NET developer worked OOB [1].…

Why not Linux (depending on your line of work). Wider hardware choice, easier to upgrade, and no corporate oversight. Doesn't cover all use cases but it's a good option these days.

The problem with PC hardware is that yes, there's more choice, but it's all mostly bad. Nobody other than Apple manages to put a decent and reliable trackpad on their machines for example, and all PC laptops I've used have at times gotten really loud. If you're okay with non-Windows OSes, hardware choice is the main reason to pick Apple machines.

Also, Linux is coming along rather well on Apple Silicon machines.

Re: Microsoft is using malware-like pop-ups in Win11 to get people to ditch Chrome

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post #53

I'm a big fan of WSL, which has kept me on Windows for years more than I otherwise would have. But I can't stand the scammy adware infused OS Windows has become and will be moving to Apple Silicon full-time when the next gen M3 Desktop hardware is out. As a recent M2 Macbook Air owner I'm surprised how much software supports ARM/Apple Silicon natively, where everything I use daily as a .NET developer worked OOB [1].…

I wanted to add a new user account on my new Windows 11 system. It came with Windows Home right. So when I went to add one, it told me that feature is disabled because I have poor man's Windows, go to this other program. So I go to program B. Guess what program B told me? It told me I was using poor man's Windows to go back to program A to add a new user. I had to do it via command line. After I was about to remove m…

Unfortunately Linux is still far from ready. It's awesome that it can run Steam games quite seamlessly, and it can even run non-Steam games if you fiddle around a bit and find the magic incantations. But - I tried using it for things like GoG, and quickly found out that there is actually no way of running GOG on Linux, even with Proton/Wine, unless maybe if I go and install a bunch of other 3rd parties. Not to mention, installing the Nvidia drivers without first running an apt upgrade on my newly installed system quickly broke the whole thing to where it wouldn't even boot.

So back to Windows it is, and hoping that they respect the GDPR enough to protect me from the worse of their snooping.

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