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New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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Post by thfuran »

71a54xd wrote: post #112
drewg123 wrote: post #64

Sounds like not much has changed since 2015. A good friend ordered a new Model S in 2015. It arrived with a "squeak" that turned out to be due to missing welds in structural components of the chassis. They wanted him to sign an NDA to get a replacement vehicle (which he refused to do, both on principle, and because he'd talked to friends about it already). So he was forced to keep his vehicle, which was then repaired…

Your friend was a fool to not take the new vehicle (removing his financial burden) and then just do whatever he wanted with the info... Granted, I'd lease a Hyundai before ever considering buying a Tesla. It's too bad bc I like the tech, but lack of ownership, software telemetry and shoddy service is a deal breaker.

>(removing his financial burden) and then just do whatever he wanted with the info..

Thus creating a whole new financial burden.

Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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Post by dopamean »

opwieurposiu wrote: post #77

This looks to me like a "cold shut", which is a type of casting defect. "Cold shuts occur when two relatively cold streams of molten metal from different gates meet and do not fuse together properly during the casting process. This problem is visible to the naked eye – giving the appearance of a crack separating the two sections." https://www.haworthcastings.co.uk/news/the-differences-betwe... Cracks caused by impact…

Is there a functional difference? Would cracks from a cold shut not disqualify the product (whatever it is) from going into service?

Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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Post by mrcwinn »

It's one car, so I don't want to pretend like it's every car, but certainly Tesla has earned a reputation at poor quality control. It seems obvious to me they optimize for factory output even at the cost of delivering a correct product.

Anecdotally, a close friend had a Model S Plaid. He took delivery roughly a year after they were announced. Tesla forgot to install weather stripping in the frunk. "Flood" is too strong a word, but yes, during a rain storm water seeped into the frunk. This car is very expensive, but honestly I would expect an entry-level Toyota to have correct weather stripping.

Elon is all about "hardcore." He belittles his own employees and plays classes against one another — claiming information workers should continue to commute on the Bart just like factory workers. But oh, by the way, he takes a private jet from meeting to meeting.

So what baffles me is how Elon Musk continues to say casually that production ramp is "really hard." I have no doubt that it is, but the Model S was released in 2012. It's been, what, 11 years, and you're still delivering like this? Not good enough.

Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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Post by dncornholio »

kevingadd wrote: post #2

Light being able to shine straight through part of your car that's meant to be solid is scary. Does anyone know how common it is for cast metal of this sort to have damage like this? I am kind of surprised their manufacturing would have this issue

I have absolutely no knowledge about casting metal but I'm 100% sure you can cast these parts without any cracks. This is a very obvious quality control issue, we've been casting metal for decades..

Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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Post by agloe_dreams »

rsynnott wrote: post #67
gwbas1c wrote: post #47

This is a slam-dunk for the typical American lemon law. The owner of the car should go out and find a lemon law lawyer. When I had to work with one I didn't have to pay a thing. (I had a Subaru where the GPS / Stereo would reboot while I drove and loose its settings. After a bunch of replacements, the car still had the problem. I had to catch it on video, though. Subaru ended up declaring the car a lemon after trying…

> I own two Teslas and their service is horrible. Genuinely curious; why did you buy the second one? I might possibly be slightly over-vindictive with brands, but once a brand fails me I’m very reluctant to buy something else from them (a Samsung TV with some silly quality control and firmware issues was enough to make me swear off Samsung, and the Nexus 7 (original one; the one that tended to degrade after about a y…

Ironic fact: The Nexus 7 and the original Tesla Model S share the exact same flaw: They both used a Tegra 3 SOC with memory that would effectively fail in shorter-than-normal time. The outcome is that the system would get slower or in the Tesla's case, crash.

Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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Post by dopamean »

FredPret wrote: post #123

I took an Uber in a Tesla (the small flat one) recently. I could not believe the squeaking. Every Tesla driver I talk to loves theirs though. I hope the Cybertruck is much better built.

It wont be. It's being built in the same place this cracked Tesla was built. Also it's so over due I've got to imagine they're rushing to get it out the door.

Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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Post by stef25 »

toddmorey wrote: post #73
rsynnott wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I own two Teslas and their service is horrible. Genuinely curious; why did you buy the second one? I might possibly be slightly over-vindictive with brands, but once a brand fails me I’m very reluctant to buy something else from them (a Samsung TV with some silly quality control and firmware issues was enough to make me swear off Samsung, and the Nexus 7 (original one; the one that tended to degrade after about a y…

I’m shopping for anything EV other than a Tesla now. There are many options now, but Tesla is still way ahead with the power train. Most competitors aren’t at the same place on range & performance yet. It’s an amazing power train glued inside a 90s-era Oldsmobile.

Mercedes EQ ?

Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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Post by artursapek »

stephenr wrote: post #9

The weirdest part of this to me is the customer. You knew the manufacturer had a reputation of forgetting hard to check parts ... and you still bought one. What else could it be missing that you can't practically check for? Still I guess at least it's good to see Tesla living up to the reputation for American cars to be generally shit build quality. I feel like they're going a bit overboard on that factor though.

American cars, especially trucks, have a great reputation. What are you talking about?

Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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Post by chroma »

ImPostingOnHN wrote: post #98
chroma wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anyone who owns a Tesla knows that isn’t true. The Tesla app lets you see all kinds of history related to any service requests. I can see plenty of feedback in text form, including cancelled appointments because the service center couldn’t fix my car. (I had to take it to a body shop.)

it clearly is true, as someone who has not yet read the article can find out by reading it doing so might clear up your misunderstanding which is currently leading you to believe there's some sort of conflict between the quote provided and your personal experience

I believe this guy’s story, but the article in question doesn’t link to the source of the quote, and that quote directly contradicts the experience of every Tesla owner.

There would definitely be a conversation in the owner’s service history where he sent them photos of a cracked casting, along with Tesla’s response.

I get that the owner doesn’t want to reveal more about themselves than is necessary, but the reporter could confirm whether or not those messages exist.

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