HelloSystem: A graphical OS built on FreeBSD

Post by gtewallace » Sat, Aug 26, 2023, 1:27 PM UTC

mekster wrote: post #116

swozey wrote: post #47

About 20 years ago I was an openbsd and freebsd admin, webhosting mostly. Then the rest of my maybe 16 year career was debian with some sprinkles of centos/rhel What would bring me to bsd today? Not in a negative way at all, I'm curious what people love about it. I barely remember much about it. I loved pf over iptables but I don't remember why. It has jailed containers which.. I think people still love? I'm not sure…

The fact BSD can't run Docker with its vast ecosystem is already a show stopper. Also having little glitches by tiny differences in shell handling make your already tuned Linux dotfiles incompatible that adds to the annoyances. And then I don't really get anything over Linux. pf is good but I'm just mostly using ufw and not running a router in the cloud that requires more than port handling. Ubuntu supports zfs in a…

Post by mekster » Sat, Aug 26, 2023, 1:56 PM UTC

gtewallace wrote: post #132

mekster wrote: post #116

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The fact BSD can't run Docker with its vast ecosystem is already a show stopper. Also having little glitches by tiny differences in shell handling make your already tuned Linux dotfiles incompatible that adds to the annoyances. And then I don't really get anything over Linux. pf is good but I'm just mostly using ufw and not running a router in the cloud that requires more than port handling. Ubuntu supports zfs in a…

a couple projects underway for containers, still wip but promising. https://hackmd.io/7BIT_khIRQyPAe4EdiigHg https://github.com/samuelkarp/runj

Post by LargoLasskhyfv » Sat, Aug 26, 2023, 3:16 PM UTC

enriquto wrote: post #51

swozey wrote: post #47

About 20 years ago I was an openbsd and freebsd admin, webhosting mostly. Then the rest of my maybe 16 year career was debian with some sprinkles of centos/rhel What would bring me to bsd today? Not in a negative way at all, I'm curious what people love about it. I barely remember much about it. I loved pf over iptables but I don't remember why. It has jailed containers which.. I think people still love? I'm not sure…

For me the main point of bsd or small linuxes over debians/redhats is that running htop fills just one third of the screen and I can understand what each program does right away. It fills me with a sense of control and tranquility that just isn't there in more complex setups.

Post by djbusby » Sat, Aug 26, 2023, 3:43 PM UTC

swozey wrote: post #56

enriquto wrote: post #51

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For me the main point of bsd or small linuxes over debians/redhats is that running htop fills just one third of the screen and I can understand what each program does right away. It fills me with a sense of control and tranquility that just isn't there in more complex setups.

That's a great point. Would you consider yourself a minimalist in general? I think I'm the opposite. I'm one of those people who installs every (secure and vetted) plugin/extension/app that makes my life/work "easier." I have a ridiculous amount of vscode/intellij/obsidian plugins that I use. I'm sure if I used emacs/vim it'd be the same. Just as an example that's super frowned upon, I install about 5-10 various pack…

Post by badsectoracula » Sat, Aug 26, 2023, 5:01 PM UTC

actionfromafar wrote: post #31

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> custom language Vala wasn't a custom language for elementaryOS, it already existed for years before the first version of the OS (and i think the first version didn't use any Vala code). It most likely used instead of Objective-C because its object system was built on top of glib's gobject system and elementaryOS used Gtk and a lot of other glib/gobject-based libraries. Using Objective-C would mean they'd have to ba…

Of course they could have used GTK from ObjectiveC, in fact it has been proposed.