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Upcoming .com and .xyz domain price increase
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Re: Upcoming .com and .xyz domain price increase
#132Re: Upcoming .com and .xyz domain price increase
#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
“I think calling them a monopoly at this point is an unfair comparison. Verisign is no more a monopoly than your Ford dealer is a monopoly,” Redl said. “It’s not the original days of the internet where that was the only top-level domain.” It is bothers me that the monopoly is excused this way.
Well, if you don't like Verisign's service, you can always move one county over, and deal with a different TLD domain registrar for .com, just like with your Ford dealer. (As an aside, I'd pay for a better-curated DNS infrastructure. For instance, google's font domains of whatever could just resolve to something federated, and that has TLS certs that are trusted by the alternative infrastructure. Google's chain of tr…
I hope that someone sooner or later will be able to propose an alternative model to the current DNS infrastructure.
Exceeding the current limits and the abuses that derive from it is certainly something extremely difficult to achieve, but I think there's a market in trying to fix the status quo.
Re: Upcoming .com and .xyz domain price increase
#134Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you already have a .com domain that all your customers are familiar with, its not like you can just switch to a different domain. _Maybe_ I could excuse this if it was only for new registrations, but left the price for renewals the same, at least for existing domain owners.
If you have customers familiar with your domain, annual domain renewal is an extremely negligible cost to your business.
If you run a successful restaurant paying for "protection" to mobsters is a negligible cost to keep your business running (and your kneecaps not broken), but that doesn't make the racketeering acceptable...
Re: Upcoming .com and .xyz domain price increase
#135Earlier quoted context omitted.
Also rent seeking by namecheap. But agreed. It’s parasitic.
>Also rent seeking by namecheap What has it got to do with namecheap when they dont own the registry of .COM or .XYZ?
They use the occasion to get more commission, by encouraging renewals further in the future to "lock" the current price. Presumably they get the full 10 years worth of commission today when a .com is renewed for that long.
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#136I'm ok if this leads to de-squatting. I wish there was some kind of bulk price increase. I know all the issues but if you own 1,000 domains you're just sitting on, that 1,001th you're trying to snatch should be more expensive Hoarding domains for ransom shouldn't be a business model I guess another model is you could regulate the transfer and selling of domains to a certain cap. If the most you can legally get is say…
> If the most you can legally get is say $5000, then people wouldn't collect and squat in such giant volumes Quite the opposite. They squat on giant volumes so they can stick ordinary people for $2500 instead of $10. They should just prohibit selling domain names. It would solve 99% of the problem because then they couldn't use domain parking pages or otherwise openly offer them for sale. Someone would still manage t…
I appreciate the ideals. I'm entertaining the idea that there's a non-asshole way to do domain brokering that's more like a store and less like a hostage negotiation. Maybe that's not possible.
Re: Upcoming .com and .xyz domain price increase
#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
> If the most you can legally get is say $5000, then people wouldn't collect and squat in such giant volumes Quite the opposite. They squat on giant volumes so they can stick ordinary people for $2500 instead of $10. They should just prohibit selling domain names. It would solve 99% of the problem because then they couldn't use domain parking pages or otherwise openly offer them for sale. Someone would still manage t…
> They should just prohibit selling domain names. So Joe Squatter will retain ownership, but permits company.com to use it for 99 years for the same price as he would have sold it for. Or something like that... I don't really disagree with you as such, but where there's a will, there's way, and never underestimate the creativity and twattery people will come up with to make a buck. Banning this will be hard, and I'm…
> So Joe Squatter will retain ownership, but permits company.com to use it for 99 years for the same price as he would have sold it for.
Then company.com is going to object that they would lose the domain they've had for 99 years or be subject to an extortionate price increase, because they really actually do want to own it. And you can prohibit leasing domain names too.
I mean this isn't that hard. You know who these companies are. You prohibit sales, you go to the website of the company trying to sell a million domains and see what scam they're running now, and two hours later you prohibit that too. Eventually they'll make a mistake and do something which is explicitly prohibited and forfeit all of their domains.
"We should not attempt to solve this problem because the first attempt might be less than 100% effective" is pointless defeatism. So what if they come up with a way around it? Prohibit whatever they do until they go out of business.
Re: Upcoming .com and .xyz domain price increase
#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
> If the most you can legally get is say $5000, then people wouldn't collect and squat in such giant volumes Quite the opposite. They squat on giant volumes so they can stick ordinary people for $2500 instead of $10. They should just prohibit selling domain names. It would solve 99% of the problem because then they couldn't use domain parking pages or otherwise openly offer them for sale. Someone would still manage t…
> They should just prohibit selling domain names. So Joe Squatter will retain ownership, but permits company.com to use it for 99 years for the same price as he would have sold it for. Or something like that... I don't really disagree with you as such, but where there's a will, there's way, and never underestimate the creativity and twattery people will come up with to make a buck. Banning this will be hard, and I'm…
it's kind of an internet georgism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgism
Re: Upcoming .com and .xyz domain price increase
#139Earlier quoted context omitted.
When I live somewhere and the owner of the water company decides they need to increase prices 9% despite having lower costs, they are definitely exercising their monopoly, even when there are several other utilities coming to my home and so many other kinds of beverage I might acquire.
How do you know they have lower costs? My local water municipality recently increased prices citing increased pricing across the entire spectrum of equipment, materials, chemicals and labor. This in addition to state-mandated improvements to waste water management that must be completed within a certain timeframe.
If you're in Britain most likely your water company has been saddled with debt [so it could pay more to its shareholders] and is in serious economical difficulties.
Re: Upcoming .com and .xyz domain price increase
#140I have been a bit reluctant to complain too much about prices going up recently since in many ways it feels like a hopeless battle.
But in this particular case, I don't quite understand why Verisign needs to increase the cost of this. I can't imagine the infrastructure costs are really that high for this. So I am really curious where this extra money is really going?
Sure it's not much, but I would still like a justification as to why.
I am also curious that I can't find any information about AWS increasing their cost for .com domains. They are still sitting at $13 for both .com and .xyz