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This American Life Retracting "Mr. Daisey & The Apple Factory"

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Re: This American Life Retracting "Mr. Daisey & The Apple Factory"

#131
Welcome to America. Standard behavior with all broadcast media. I'm not blaming NPR.. but the producers of This American Life, in their zeal of catching a top story cut corners. And now, I consider this Daisey fellow as low as Rush Limbaugh; making up crap as hes running to the bank cashing checks.

It's sad.

Re: This American Life Retracting "Mr. Daisey & The Apple Factory"

#132
post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Posting is one thing. E-mailing every member is another.

Emailing every member is easy to do when you have every member's email address. Their last mail to me, 7 days ago: Towards our 10,000 member goal, we heard from 9,025 folks over the last eight days, and we couldn't be more grateful. Some of the Summer Pledge Drive has been eliminated, but with your help, we can still eliminate some more. 'twoodfin is right to be cautious about valorizing WBEZ.

The right thing to do is often easy, technologically. The harder part for an organization is deciding "yep, we want to e-mail everyone on our list and tell them we made a big mistake".

Re: This American Life Retracting "Mr. Daisey & The Apple Factory"

#133
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post #2

I'm a Chicago Public Radio member and just got this in my email. Wow: I’m writing to tell you that tonight, This American Life and Marketplace will reveal that a story that we broadcast on This American Life this past January contained significant fabrications. We’re retracting that story because we can’t vouch for its truth, and this weekend's episode of our show will detail the errors in the story, which was an exc…

Daisey responds: "It uses a combination of fact, memoir, and dramatic license to tell its story, and I believe it does so with integrity". Calling to mind Jack Shafer (now at Reuters, formally Slate's media critic) on the problematic nature of narrative journalism: http://blogs.reuters.com/jackshafer/2012/03/14/dismantling-t...

I don't think he means by integrity what I do.

Re: This American Life Retracting "Mr. Daisey & The Apple Factory"

#134
post #2

I'm a Chicago Public Radio member and just got this in my email. Wow: I’m writing to tell you that tonight, This American Life and Marketplace will reveal that a story that we broadcast on This American Life this past January contained significant fabrications. We’re retracting that story because we can’t vouch for its truth, and this weekend's episode of our show will detail the errors in the story, which was an exc…

Hardly a worth a "Wow." Apple was a sponsor of NPR in FY 2008 and 2009, and 2010. I suspect they continue to be one. Money is the best explanation for the PR push behind your email. http://www.npr.org/about/aboutnpr/annualreports/NPR_AnnualRe... http://www.npr.org/about/aboutnpr/annualreports/2009_NPRAnnu... http://www.npr.org/about/aboutnpr/annualreports/NPRSponsorsD...

> Apple was a sponsor of NPR in FY 2008 and 2009, and 2010.

That's nice, but This American Life isn't made by NPR.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Radio_International

> PRI is a major public media content creator and also distributes programs from many sources, competing with National Public Radio and American Public Media to provide programming to public radio stations.

Re: This American Life Retracting "Mr. Daisey & The Apple Factory"

#135
post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know because I've seen it. My wife and I used to live in China, and we did traveling in both the high and the low places. I can't speak to the particulars in Daisey's story (since I don't know which ones were made up), but the overall picture he painted sounded familiar. It's unquestionable that there are horrible working conditions in Chinese factories. That's the tragedy here. There's millions of awful wonderful…

I'm somewhat interested in a curious technical aspect that Daisey put into the story. He claimed that something to the effect of "nothing there was made by machine, everything tiny little chip is put there by hand" - which I found hard to believe then and even harder now. To what extent if any is this true?

How would he even know? He wasn't allowed into the factories.

Re: This American Life Retracting "Mr. Daisey & The Apple Factory"

#136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This American Life is not an NPR program.

Sorry, it only airs on NPR around here and their site says "This American Life is produced by Chicago Public Radio and distributed by Public Radio International."

Chicago Public Radio and Public Radio International aren't affiliated with NPR. PRI is a competitor.

Re: This American Life Retracting "Mr. Daisey & The Apple Factory"

#137
post #38

I predict that the anti-Apple movement will say that the story was mostly true as told, and any denials by the Chinese interpreter were politically motivated, forced by Foxconn and the Chinese government.

It's not an anti-apple movement its a fair and humane electronics manufacturing labor movement. Apple is a huge and well known brand so they are natural fit for a story, but its also well known and reported that foxconn and friends are widely used by other electronics companies. These are serious issues about how human beings are treated and they deserve more from than a reframe into a silly tribal squabble over who…

"It's not an anti-apple movement its a fair and humane electronics manufacturing labor movement."

China's labor problems aren't limited to their electronics factories.

Re: This American Life Retracting "Mr. Daisey & The Apple Factory"

#138
post #2

I'm a Chicago Public Radio member and just got this in my email. Wow: I’m writing to tell you that tonight, This American Life and Marketplace will reveal that a story that we broadcast on This American Life this past January contained significant fabrications. We’re retracting that story because we can’t vouch for its truth, and this weekend's episode of our show will detail the errors in the story, which was an exc…

Hardly a worth a "Wow." Apple was a sponsor of NPR in FY 2008 and 2009, and 2010. I suspect they continue to be one. Money is the best explanation for the PR push behind your email. http://www.npr.org/about/aboutnpr/annualreports/NPR_AnnualRe... http://www.npr.org/about/aboutnpr/annualreports/2009_NPRAnnu... http://www.npr.org/about/aboutnpr/annualreports/NPRSponsorsD...

>Money is the best explanation for the PR push behind your email.

Your statement however is worthy of a WOW.

Re: This American Life Retracting "Mr. Daisey & The Apple Factory"

#139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hardly a worth a "Wow." Apple was a sponsor of NPR in FY 2008 and 2009, and 2010. I suspect they continue to be one. Money is the best explanation for the PR push behind your email. http://www.npr.org/about/aboutnpr/annualreports/NPR_AnnualRe... http://www.npr.org/about/aboutnpr/annualreports/2009_NPRAnnu... http://www.npr.org/about/aboutnpr/annualreports/NPRSponsorsD...

> Apple was a sponsor of NPR in FY 2008 and 2009, and 2010. That's nice, but This American Life isn't made by NPR. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Radio_International > PRI is a major public media content creator and also distributes programs from many sources, competing with National Public Radio and American Public Media to provide programming to public radio stations.

note: brudgers is Mike Daisey's publicist.

Re: This American Life Retracting "Mr. Daisey & The Apple Factory"

#140
post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Emailing every member is easy to do when you have every member's email address. Their last mail to me, 7 days ago: Towards our 10,000 member goal, we heard from 9,025 folks over the last eight days, and we couldn't be more grateful. Some of the Summer Pledge Drive has been eliminated, but with your help, we can still eliminate some more. 'twoodfin is right to be cautious about valorizing WBEZ.

The right thing to do is often easy, technologically. The harder part for an organization is deciding "yep, we want to e-mail everyone on our list and tell them we made a big mistake".

Getting people's email addresses in the first place is the "hard part" I'm alluding to.
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