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Post by brucethemoose2 »

netsharc wrote: post #100
danuker wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's funny how a trillion-dollar company is playing cat-and-mouse with a few free software projects, and losing most of the time.

I have a feeling Google/Alphabet/YouTube aren't investing a lot of money into this, because they know their opponents have almost infinite resource, of free time and dedication. Besides how would you like to work in the YouTube "DRM" team, where every few weeks you'd show up to work and the news is "well, they cracked it again, your last few months' of work is useless.".

> I have a feeling Google/Alphabet/YouTube aren't investing a lot of money into this, because they know their opponents have almost infinite resource, of free time and dedication.

They aren't investing because its a CLI tool. Its not really a threat.

If it was, like, a "1 click download free music from Youtube!" app that was trending like crazy, Google would focus more on fighting it.

The project is balanced between reasonable accessibility and not drawing too much attention from Google. Its kinda like the AI Wars video game, where you undermine a distracted/disenterested AI without drawing too much of its attention.

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Post by agensaequivocum »

tivert wrote: post #116
agensaequivocum wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except one is an explicitly enumerated constitutional right.

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It was widely understood prior to the 20th century that the right applied to the people. Here is a long thread with dozens of sources https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1645290263299117056.html. Overwhelming they all agree that military weapons are most protected of all.

> Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Understanding "the people" here to mean the government is absurd. The government doesn't need to petition itself for redress. Moreover, they could have used the word `government` instead.

The Bill of Rights was added because the anti-federalist were worried that the constitution didn't protect individual liberty enough.

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Post by qingcharles »

skissane wrote: post #62
qingcharles wrote: post #26

This is why I'm setting up a reverse proxy on another host in front of my web site, in case I get some fake takedown request from a competitor that causes my host to delete my account. At least if I use a proxy I can spend a small amount of time setting up a new proxy. I used to have a competitor who would email PayPal every couple of weeks to tell them our web site had CP on it just so PayPal would instantly shut of…

> I used to have a competitor who would email PayPal every couple of weeks to tell them our web site had CP on it just so PayPal would instantly shut off our payment gateway while they investigated Isn’t this sort of behaviour criminal? (I mean the competitor submitting a fake child pornography report, not whatever PayPal did to respond to it.) And if not, surely it ought to be.

Yes, but it was done anonymously. The competitor denied all knowledge of it, but the guy he paid to do the reporting would talk to me through chat every day to gloat about it.

I ended up paying 15000EUR bounty to track the guy down. Found him in Germany. 15 year old kid. Had somebody talk his mother about him. Never had a problem again after that.

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Post by II2II »

danuker wrote: post #92
AugustoCAS wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have to build it from source to avoid the 60kbps limit. There hasn't been a release since Dec 2021 and there have been some updates since then that implement the 'puzzle' to get the right value of the url parameter. It's worth noting that YouTube is trialling a new player and a lot of applications (invidious, new pipe, etc) are experiencing some issues in the last couple of weeks.

It's funny how a trillion-dollar company is playing cat-and-mouse with a few free software projects, and losing most of the time.

They don't have to win in absolute terms. They only have to prevent people from adopting alternative players en masse.

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Post by getcrunk »

netsharc wrote: post #100
danuker wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's funny how a trillion-dollar company is playing cat-and-mouse with a few free software projects, and losing most of the time.

I have a feeling Google/Alphabet/YouTube aren't investing a lot of money into this, because they know their opponents have almost infinite resource, of free time and dedication. Besides how would you like to work in the YouTube "DRM" team, where every few weeks you'd show up to work and the news is "well, they cracked it again, your last few months' of work is useless.".

YouTube doesn’t have DRM on non paid content. If they did, the situation would be way different.

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Post by hamhock666 »

PartiallyTyped wrote: post #120
tivert wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I don’t know how any sane person thinks a bunch of larpers - even if they themselves don’t see them as such - can defend themselves against a willing US military…

I mean what about the Viet Cong?

I think the main idea is that a well armed population creates a different relationship with the government. It is much harder to round up people and send them to camps if they can actually put up a fight. The idea is to avoid that conflict in the first place by having that threat of civilian retaliation. Yes the government could still do it, but it would be costly.

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Post by deadbunny »

danuker wrote: post #92
AugustoCAS wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have to build it from source to avoid the 60kbps limit. There hasn't been a release since Dec 2021 and there have been some updates since then that implement the 'puzzle' to get the right value of the url parameter. It's worth noting that YouTube is trialling a new player and a lot of applications (invidious, new pipe, etc) are experiencing some issues in the last couple of weeks.

It's funny how a trillion-dollar company is playing cat-and-mouse with a few free software projects, and losing most of the time.

I guess you missed the "not" Google proposal for the Browser Attestation API? No need to put too many respurces fighting for a single site when you can just lock it down to blessed browsers.

Re: YouTube-Dl Site Goes Offline as Hosting Provider Enforces Court-Ordered Ban

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Post by keybpo »

tedunangst wrote: post #29
skyyler wrote: post #3

As noted in the article, the project still has a page on github: http://ytdl-org.github.io/youtube-dl/ I've moved on to https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp anyways. But this is still an infuriating move. youtube-dl wasn't doing anything infringing on its site, was it?

Yeah, youtube-dl has been uselessly slow for me for over a year. Long since switched to yt-dlp.

https://github.com/ytdl-patched/youtube-dl/

Re: YouTube-Dl Site Goes Offline as Hosting Provider Enforces Court-Ordered Ban

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Post by boomboomsubban »

Espionage724 wrote: post #121
tamimio wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I can listen to music on the radio, but it's a whole different issue when I pick specific songs to pirate for my own personal listening :p But that's not where the caring comes in; it's the tools I can use to pirate songs; hence youtube-dl going down and not the users who used it. So basically you are not allowed to listen to what your mood wants but rather what their sponsors want, that or pay us! Yeah no thanks. B…

I can pick specific songs and even download them for offline playback with Spotify. A problem in that case would come if I try to bypass Spotify's copy protection and play the offline songs in a different player. youtube-dl was bypassing geo-blocks.

>youtube-dl was bypassing geo-blocks.

I don't think it was. I've been told by youtube-dl that content is blocked in my region many times.

The article spells out how they claim youtube-dl is bypassing copy protection.

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