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Uninstall the NightOwl app

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Re: Uninstall the NightOwl app

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Post by jamil7 »

omgJustTest wrote: post #40
crazygringo wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, usually I associate super-shady things with hiding the fact that they're super-shady. I'm thankful, but also genuinely curious, why they put this explicitly in their TOS. It just kind of seems to be like the kind of person/org who would implement this shady stuff in the first place, would also actively hide that they're doing it. Is there a legal reason that protects NightOwl by explicitly putting it in the TOS?…

Probably compelled by Apple, or removal from store.

There’s a lot the app is doing that would not be allowed through review. It’s distributed via Sparkle which is pretty common for mac apps.

Re: Uninstall the NightOwl app

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Post by croes »

deciplex wrote: post #69
reustle wrote: post #51

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Couldn't this happen to paid apps just as easily?

Seems like a developer that is getting literally nothing for his app or plugin is more likely to sell it than a developer that's getting some income from it. At the least, the buyer would need to match the current value that the app provides its author.

I don't know.

A developer who didn't charge anything from the beginning has more likely other motives releasing his software than making money.

But if you already make a little money you may easily fall for a lot of money.

Re: Uninstall the NightOwl app

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Post by dingosity »

hank_z wrote: post #42

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Looks like it worked.  It looks like it's rendering with a mono font.

Re: Uninstall the NightOwl app

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Post by rootusrootus »

TheRealPomax wrote: post #39
WirelessGigabit wrote: post #23

> It also tries to open a UPnP port forward on your router, but fails on mine because the key names are jumbled: This should fail on any router as you should have UPnP disabled.

Let me tell you about family members that have a mac because "they don't want the hassle of a windows laptop". They also don't want the hassle of not having uPnP, that setting is going to be turned on whether you know better or not.

> Let me tell you about family members that have a mac because "they don't want the hassle of a windows laptop".

They are not wrong. E.g. It amazes me how much pain and suffering Microsoft expects users to endure just to use a printer. It is not lost on my stepmother that her Windows machine has endless problems setting up and printing to her Brother laser printer, but her iPhone just sees it without having to be told.

Re: Uninstall the NightOwl app

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Post by Arnavion »

ptx wrote: post #67
NotYourLawyer wrote: post #48

> sudo zsh -c "rm /Users/*/Library/LaunchAgents/NightOwlUpdater.plist" Why do you need to call out to zsh for this command instead of just running it in the current shell?

Because the expansion of the wildcard needs to happen with the privileges granted by sudo. If you just ran "sudo rm ..." the expansion would be done by the current shell, which doesn't have the required privileges.

I don't know anything about MacOS. Normal users don't have r-x on /Users ? How do they access their own /Users/whatever homedir then?

Re: Uninstall the NightOwl app

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Post by worik »

dingosity wrote: post #108
OhMeadhbh wrote: post #93

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Stop being a jerk and play nice. Say what you mean without attacking people.

I don't think I was attacking people, but will defer. In less inflammatory prose, let me say: There is a problem on the net that is exacerbated by funding models which seek to use free services to do "bad" things. The Ad-Driven model has problems that the needs of the end user are often not considered paramount, but instead the needs of the advertiser are. After all, they're the ones paying the bills. Print newspaper…

> What if you were a couple weeks away from laying everyone off and a shady partner sidled up to you and suggested such a move. I believe it would be a moral crisis for any entrepreneur: shaft your customers or shaft your business, its investors and its employees.

That is the difference between ethical and unethical operators

Re: Uninstall the NightOwl app

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Post by chayesfss »

stjohnswarts wrote: post #104
spiznnx wrote: post #59

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Is this a common slang in infosec? I've never seen it used like this and it has highly insensitive connotations for me in other contexts.

I haven't heard anyone using that homophobic edgelord word in probably a decade. Maybe a time traveler?

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Re: Uninstall the NightOwl app

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Post by veave »

Astronaut3315 wrote: post #54
callalex wrote: post #41

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Do you deny the need for UPnP entirely? This is a confusing statement.

What do you actually need it for? I’ve had it disabled for ages, have no port forwards defined and have never had any issues.

I have many devices at home and I can't be administering all the port forwards by hand, it would be a lot of work.
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