If they did reverse engineer these UFOs, they must have kept it very secret from the NASA SLS team, and EVERYONE at Boeing. If they secretly gave it all to spaceX then maybe we get a _slightly_ compelling argument…
Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites
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#132Many people from the government and from the military are putting their reputation and career (and maybe safety) on the line to bring these informations to the public.
Let’s at least recognize that before automatically casting doubt.
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#133Technically, “non-human” bodies and technology that can “turn us into a charcoal briquette” precisely describes Laika of Sputnik II fame. We also did have flying saucers in the 50s, but they kind of sucked compared to helicopters. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laika https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avro_Canada_VZ-9_Avrocar
Even a personal "drone" flying saucer:
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#134Snowden spent quite a bit of time looking for UFO stuff since he had access to almost everything classified and never found any evidence. I’m not saying this whistleblower is definitely lying, but if anyone was capable and willing to bring this forward with receipts, Snowden would’ve done so.
That proves nothing though. US Government data is so siloed it’s possible Snowden would not have access to UFO info even if he had access to essentially everything the NSA had access to.
Given Snowden and the discord kid maybe it's not
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#135It’s a good call out - the ability of the government to keep secrets across decades. But - tinfoil hat time - have they not demonstrated their ability to do this wrt the knowledge around nuclear weapons? Edit: and considering the claimed abilities of UAP, might those technologies be on par (in terms of military might) with the technology behind nuclear weapons? Also, that bit about a spaceship needing a biological pi…
They said nothing about a pilot. He said they found "biologics". Doesn't mean it was a pilot.
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#136I watched the hearing and noticed three things:
1. Many questions about the US response to aerial devices like the “Chinese ballon” and the public’s right to knowledge about those events.
2. Calls for removing career stigma around pilots reporting UAPs.
3. Calls for additional funding and policies surrounding research and reporting of unidentified aerial phenomenon.
It was a combination of pragmatic process improvements, defense funding requests and unsubstantiated non-human intelligence claims.
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#137I identified a UFO yesterday. It was a UFO until I realized a finch flew past my camera too fast for it to focus. I suspect most UFO's are something like this. I would hope that all UFO investigations start with "Why were our sensors failing to do their job?" and/or "Why was someone able to trick/spoof our sensors?"
I can see why this would be classified. One should not leak to adversaries how miserably some of our sensors and cameras are failing. So that only leaves me with one question. Do governments stipulate in their vendor contracts that if {n} percent of objects can not be identified by some measurable means that they get a heavy discount on the improved sensors?
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#138It’s a good call out - the ability of the government to keep secrets across decades. But - tinfoil hat time - have they not demonstrated their ability to do this wrt the knowledge around nuclear weapons? Edit: and considering the claimed abilities of UAP, might those technologies be on par (in terms of military might) with the technology behind nuclear weapons? Also, that bit about a spaceship needing a biological pi…
They said nothing about a pilot. He said they found "biologics". Doesn't mean it was a pilot.
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#139This whole thing is just making me have less and less faith in society. There's no fucking way this is remotely true, but everywhere I look, not matter the community, there's so much "what if" nonsense that reeks of the same ignorance those people screamed about when that was the argument for COVID conspiracies. The energy required to travel through space is obscene. The difficulty of traveling through space is obsce…
Yes. This. 100%
If I was the government exchequer and comfortably spending on the refrigeration of alien entrails & annually greasing their flying saucers, I wouldn't _additionally_ spend billions of dollars setting up space observatories like JWST, new radio wave telescopes & deep space probes to find evidence of life. At the least, experts from scientific community will be invited to investigate any material finds & that information will trickle out in tiny amounts. Scientific community deeply believes in replication at its core. It is impossible for everything to remain compartmental.
And acknowledging existence of alien technology only makes the position of a country more formidable, not less. Our global relationship is today less of muscle (like the past) & more posturing. By acknowledging otherworldly technology's existence but denying the details, US would be incredibly in advantageous position militarily. Why wouldn't they if they already possessed these technology?
We as human race may be spiteful to our brethren, but not stupid given the obscene expenditure of wealth and resources we dedicate annually in lieu of feeding & keeping everyone happy
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#140I don't know what to make of this. It just seems so incredibly implausibly that extraterrestrials would have the technology or motive to come to Earth without widespread detection.
Part of the testimony was that there is widespread detection. The claim is that UAPs are often a part of briefings and debriefs. Its also been claimed during the recent UAP related testimonies that a large number of military and civilian pilots have seen stuff, but either had no clear path to report it, reported it and were ignored, or reported and were harassed, or chose to not report it out of fear of harassment.