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‘A very disturbing picture’: another retraction for controversial physicist

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From the article -- "...after researcher Jan Hendrik Schön at Bell Labs in Murray Hill, New Jersey, was discovered to have falsified data. In Schön’s case, and in his own experience, Muller says, 'people who fake data tend not to do it just once'." I think this is the "money shot" here, but I admit I am biased :-). I got into a heated debate years ago over the "harshness" of treating students who cheated on an exam.…

The serious question that arises from your argument is, should we apply this stance to all parts of life. Should drivers loose their licence indefinitely if they drive to fast or park wrong? Should we chop of the hand of thieves (or maybe forbid them to enter any stores)?

As a driver I make mistakes, which should be punished less harshly than outright freely chosen actions.

I certainly expect more than losing my license if I run you over deliberately.

As for thieves aren’t they normally banned from that store or chain?

Re: ‘A very disturbing picture’: another retraction for controversial physicist

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Schön got away with it for years. One of my favorite video essays is a long exploration of that case: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfDoml-Db64

Thank you for recommending this! I just finished it and this is one of the best video essays I’ve ever seen. Do you have any more recommendations? Or suggestions of channels to check out?

It's rather politically charged, but my favorite thing to recommend on YouTube in general is Innuendo Studios, particularly the "Alt-Right playbook" series. It's actually more widely relevant than the title might suggest too, since a lot of the tactics are more universal in politics now, no matter the party or persuasion.

Of those, "Endnote 2: White Fascism" I consider the most important.

Re: ‘A very disturbing picture’: another retraction for controversial physicist

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No, corruption arises when people lose faith in the system and its rules. Using harsh punishments doesn't work, if some people can pull strings with acquaintances to get themselves out of trouble. A system where every infraction has a minor punishment can work without corruption, if everyone believes everyone else will act honestly.

Is kicking someone out of academia because they show themselves to be dishonest overly harsh though?

Wrecking someone's life because of a single mistake is overly harsh, I'd say.
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