A glitch in the SEO matrix

Post by 93po » Wed, Jul 19, 2023, 10:42 PM UTC

ryandrake wrote: post #105

firefoxd wrote: post #57

The majority of times when i search on google I'm looking for someone's personal take on a matter. Whether it's a software recommendation or alternative, a recipe, or experience with a tool. Google only has listicles, top x, or best in 202x. I used to search reddit, but the hostile mobile page ruined that for me. Now i go to yandex and navigate through malware to find what i want. It doesn't help that recent trend of…

Because of widespread spam, astroturfing, hidden shilling, and soon generative AI, there is no way to tell whether something written on the internet was actually someone's personal take or whether it is paid for. I'd argue there's no web forum or social media site anywhere where you can reliably say "this was posted by an actual human and was not paid for."

Post by superasn » Wed, Jul 19, 2023, 10:43 PM UTC

urbandw311er wrote: post #108

superasn wrote: post #21

It's so weird that Google still hasn't created the ability to block spam domains. I don't think it's a technical difficulty but rather a management decision to allow spam as long as they have their adsense ads and it baffles me they just don't care about their end users at all. I think being a monopoly with most competitors lagging a lap behind can make you this way, but with chatgpt catching up quick, Google better…

> it baffles me they just don't care about their end users at all. Just for you, especially for you in fact, I went and dug out this link to an interview with Corey Doctorow where he explains his theory of platform of “enshittification”. https://podtail.com/en/podcast/future-tense-full-program-pod... I think it will interest you to hear a reasonable theory as to why Google doesn’t care as much about their end users a…

Post by chongli » Wed, Jul 19, 2023, 11:07 PM UTC

scottyah wrote: post #126

chongli wrote: post #118

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To further support my argument in favour of manual curation, I would like to ask: why, for the past few years, have people ‘in the know’ been appending “Reddit” to their search strings on Google? Because Reddit is the largest repository of manually curated links, discussions, and original non-encyclopedic information on the internet. People want manually curated information. They don’t want automation which by its ve…

Because they want a bias-filtered selection of the internet. It is very obvious looking at the reddit comments that most are made by bots and not humans, the difference is that most behave similarly and the upvoting favors sameness.

Post by makeitdouble » Wed, Jul 19, 2023, 11:15 PM UTC

jklinger410 wrote: post #74

samwillis wrote: post #50

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From the point of view of someone who spent 10 years running an e-commerce store, and all its advertising, until a couple of years ago. Both SEO and search result ads on Google are dead. The hay day of being able to play the game and make a tidy profit is long gone. Google are playing every trick in the book to extract every possible cent from advertisers, spying on their business and sales to maximise their own prof…

> Both SEO and search result ads on Google are dead And then > Google's visibility of all transactions on every e-commerce website on the internet is insane. Ah, so they have all of the information and yet their ad products don't work. They don't know this?

Post by twelve40 » Wed, Jul 19, 2023, 11:31 PM UTC

superasn wrote: post #21

It's so weird that Google still hasn't created the ability to block spam domains. I don't think it's a technical difficulty but rather a management decision to allow spam as long as they have their adsense ads and it baffles me they just don't care about their end users at all. I think being a monopoly with most competitors lagging a lap behind can make you this way, but with chatgpt catching up quick, Google better…