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Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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Post by TheCapeGreek »

kelnos wrote: post #103
dspillett wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I block ads not because I'm completely anti-advert. I'm anti being-stalked-through-my-entire-life-and-having-my-details-sold-like-I'm-a-cheap-peice-of-meat, and unfortunately ATM blocking that also means blocking most online adverts. So I draw the line before sponsorblock. At least the content creators get a better cut of that than they get from YouTube monetisation & youtube can't take it away from them as easily at…

I'm curious why you aren't anti-ad. Ads are psychological manipulation. Why would you want to subject yourself to that? I was recently visiting some family, and saw the garbage my 7-year-old nephew sits through to get to the YouTube video he wants to see[0]. I can only assume we're just training a new generation of kids to believe that ads are a normal, inevitable part of every kind of media consumption. I agree that…

> I can only assume we're just training a new generation of kids to believe that ads are a normal, inevitable part of every kind of media consumption.

Maybe? I distinctly remember doing my utmost best to ignore TV ads between my cartoons as a kid. Especially Then again, today's children have access to Youtube far earlier and with more control over what they watch, so you may have a point in that they're starting earlier and thus it gets normalised instead of "this is a sucky thing I'm going to try to ignore".

Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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Post by t0bia_s »

tohnjitor wrote: post #20

NewPipe is excellent. I was disappointed that it was not available for desktop until I discovered tartube which will download video files from almost any website easily

FreeTube

https://github.com/FreeTubeApp/FreeTube

Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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Post by Zuiii »

Zuiii wrote: post #96

I have a set of test questions I use to gauge how badly a LLM model has been lobotomized whenever a new one is released. This post made me finally realize that google search is really going away (compromise core mission due to invalid DMCA request? really??) and that I will have to start looking for new search engines. This of course means that I need a way to gauge prospective search engines. My first attempt: - Sea…

Thought up of a few more search engine tests:

- Search for specific git hashes, model numbers, and other forms of UIDs

- Search for known phone numbers

- Search for Tiananmen Square and Winnie the Pooh

- Search for the Armenian genocide

- Search for Mein kampf, Der Judenstaat, and other symbols used by extremists

Unfortunately, I have a fairly western-centric view of the world. I need the perspectives of others with different views to cover my blind spots. I don't care what values you hold, I just want a reliable search engine tool that doesn't hide information from me.

Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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Post by pallas_athena »

d33 wrote: post #113
Zuiii wrote: post #96

I have a set of test questions I use to gauge how badly a LLM model has been lobotomized whenever a new one is released. This post made me finally realize that google search is really going away (compromise core mission due to invalid DMCA request? really??) and that I will have to start looking for new search engines. This of course means that I need a way to gauge prospective search engines. My first attempt: - Sea…

Is "zstd" a typo? Couldn't find any sources on it (unless we mean the compression standard), including Wikipedia.

z-library? wild guess.

Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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Post by katbyte »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #119
p-e-w wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only countries where American law is irrelevant are Russia, China, North Korea, and Iran. Go anywhere else, and on closer examination you'll find that American law is in fact very relevant, with local governments often bending over backwards to accommodate US legal provisions. Copyright, financial regulation, and international travel are some of the areas where this is usually apparent, but far from the only ones…

Pretty much yeah. The US is quite strong at throwing its weight around its areas of influence to enforce laws favorable to their corporations, otherwise they put you on the naughty list (US Special 301 report) and you could start seeing trade restrictions come your way. It's how they managed to get RARBG taken down all they way in Bulgaria.

Is that actually why RARBG was taken down? Because their notice did not mention that. The only reasons I’ve heard have been deaths, health issues/Covid, and the war in Ukraine

Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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Post by zirgs »

p-e-w wrote: post #102
GordonFremen wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right, but the DMCA is an American law. It's irrelevant in France.

The only countries where American law is irrelevant are Russia, China, North Korea, and Iran. Go anywhere else, and on closer examination you'll find that American law is in fact very relevant, with local governments often bending over backwards to accommodate US legal provisions. Copyright, financial regulation, and international travel are some of the areas where this is usually apparent, but far from the only ones…

This is the problem with the so-called "multipolar world". There aren't any other democratic poles. So - if you're a dissident or a whistleblower and you're too high-profile - you have nowhwere to go.

Snowden has to live in Russia, because pretty much all Western countries would put him on the first plane to the USA if he ever tried to enter.

My country extradites even our own citizens to the USA.

Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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Post by martin_a »

pixelpoet wrote: post #84
wkat4242 wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The French invented the word chauvinism :) They take their language very seriously likewise. I work for a French company and even though the official language is English you're kind of a second rate citizen if you don't speak it. Or write last names in all caps or quotation marks like > :) They just are that way :P

Space before exclamation or question mark is basically 100% accurate indicator of Francophone writing.

My father does that, but he's just bad with interpunction.

Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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Post by Retr0id »

hunter2_ wrote: post #23

DMCA anti-circumvention provisions are regarding tools that circumvent effective access controls. I realize that broken encryption is considered an effective access control in this context despite it being broken, but apps like Newpipe aren't even breaking encryption, right? What aspect of the YouTube servers' behavior can be construed as an effective access control? Is there even a rudimentary secret, that never get…

For better or for worse, something being "free" doesn't change anything regarding copyright or access control.
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