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Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by shagie »

CJefferson wrote: post #125
shagie wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure how much of a whim Reddit had. A Virginia law was signed into effect on May 12th that required commercial entities that distributed "material harmful to minors" to verify the age of the users or be exposed to civil penalties. That law goes into effect in 3 hours.

How is that solved by charging for the API?

It makes it much easier to pass liability around and argue that the 3rd party app, with access to location services can verify if the person is in Virginia or not. If they aren't upholding the age verification law, you've got a credit card account tied with an individual or company that the person suing can be pointed to.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by MBCook »

aeyes wrote: post #94
shagie wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure how much of a whim Reddit had. A Virginia law was signed into effect on May 12th that required commercial entities that distributed "material harmful to minors" to verify the age of the users or be exposed to civil penalties. That law goes into effect in 3 hours.

NSFW content didn't show without an account for years. What's the difference between using the same account in the official app or on the website or third party apps? Additionally one of the API changes which also goes is into effect is that they won't serve NSFW content on the paid API. So even if you pay you only get half of Reddit.

Hell, they could have banned all real NSFW content. Would have been a big deal, but wouldn’t have interfered with 3rd party apps or anything I use Reddit for.

Any NSFW stuff (due to laws, investments, advertisers, anything) had nothing to do with the API decision. They may have done them at the same time, but it wasn’t needed.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by goolz »

When I was younger and in college I remember Spez coming to my city to visit friends and gave a small talk, detailing how they got started. I was enraptured by Reddit, tech and coding at the time so I really looked up to him and what they were doing.

I am sorely disappointed in how things have turned out. Tech as we know it has become this sick, twisted battle for clicks and eye-balls and exits. Not to discount those that are doing great work, but where did all the integrity go?

Edit: remember when Google had the audacity to have the catchphrase “don’t be evil”? Bahahaha. Good stuff.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by goykasi »

datenyan wrote: post #96
adrr wrote: post #72

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Nothing. Apollo was less than 1% of users. It would be interesting to a see a survey to see what population of Reddit was affected by these changes or cared.

I think the bigger issue is that Apollo (and other apps such as RIF) were amazing tools for moderators, with the official app lacking a lot of features the unofficial clients had.

What is missing in the official app? And how many mods are using a mobile app rather than a desktop env? A desktop browser seems like it would be infinitely better than a mobile experience.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by dehrmann »

dom96 wrote: post #50

I am still somewhat shocked that they went through with this. I built a Reddit API[1] alternative as a form of protest, they responded by blocking my personal Reddit account. Very sad what Reddit has become. 1 - https://api.reddiw.com

It's a completely different approach, but maybe you can do web view shenanigans to create an API bridge on devices.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by pwpw »

bloopernova wrote: post #68
Exuma wrote: post #44

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110% agree... I have occasionally today looked at my phone like Hm....... nothing to do here, and then just stared out the window. There's always opportunities to learn instead, but I already learn for hours a day.

I've been reading. No clickbait. No ragebait. Just Discworld and its hilarious inhabitants.

I stopped browsing Reddit 2 months ago and switched that time to reading Discworld too! It’s fantastic. I just started Mort. It feels like an incredibly more rewarding use of my time. Terry Pratchet really is wonderful.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by BHSPitMonkey »

lucb1e wrote: post #90

Oh that's dumb. I forgot to check my inbox before midnight. I had offered Tildes invites and don't have the password to that account (but have been logged in since years, can access the auth token, etc., but reddit doesn't want you to recover from this scenario, so that's gone forever). Well... anyone here needs a Tildes invite?

I'd love one; Hope you don't mind if I send you an email in lieu of posting mine here?

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by dehrmann »

meepmorp wrote: post #111

So, will Reddit still manage to have an IPO soon? Or maybe better to ask, a successful one.

The window is closed right now, but this at least removed one of the risks. At the same time, it exposed the moderator risk, the revenue impact isn't clear yet, and it's drama that investors might not like.
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