Isn't this all an anti-trust thing at this point? Of the type which Microsoft got done for in 2000s?
Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default
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Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default
#132I don't understand how Microsoft benefits from getting everyone to use their web browser? Is it all to spy on people's browsing habits?
Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default
#133Its getting worse everywhere: some things I've noticed: Mobil Safari seems to be using the search bar to hijack my google search (Particularly for locations which open in apple maps) Although I'm mostly linux these days I went to install an alternative browser on a windows machine (using edge to download). I mentioned this in another post, but edge seems to watch for "chrome" or "firefox" downloads and politely remin…
I really don't like to use Edge, and I don't like imposed changes, however if you read the article, it says that it can be turned off, or am I missing something? "Ultimately though, if this experience isn't right for you, you can turn off this feature the first time it launches in Microsoft Edge, and then in Outlook settings at any time after that."
The fact that it does it at all is the issue. Someone wrote code that literally is watching for users trying to download another browser.
You usually download a browser just once, so turning if off isn't the issue. I suspect some of less technically inclined might abide by it and not download the new broswer.
It almost seems like trial run for stopping the download. I can imagine "clippy" popping up an saying "I see your trying to download a browser, I'm sorry, I can't allow that"
Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default
#134The title is a little clickbaity - the behaviour can be changed: “ Ultimately though, if this experience isn't right for you, you can turn off this feature the first time it launches in Microsoft Edge, and then in Outlook settings at any time after that. ” Having said that, Microsoft seem to be entering another phase of baiting antitrust regulators.
> this experience isn't right for you
What kind of post-Orwellian shitfuckery is this? It really grinds my gears when a prompt puts words in your mouth (e.g. "Yes, please" or "No thanks, maybe later") but this reaches a new level by trying to reframe something as simple as wilfully ignoring a stated preference. It sounds like a modern car ad in that it's all about catering to you the "main character" writing your own story and presenting themselves as the facilitators of your perfect customised destiny.
But they're just trying to change your browser and hope you have enough to worry about that you won't notice and their metric will tick up.
Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default
#135Earlier quoted context omitted.
You don't need Windows for gaming any more. Ubuntu 22.04 comes with graphics drivers. Steam has Steam Play and Lutris has a huge library of install scripts, so everything is handled for you. The one thing you will need to do occasionally is experiment with different Wine distributions. This means you will need to right click on your game and select the distribution from a drop-down box. Exhausting, I know.
Did linux eventually get HDR support or is it still one (of many) sacrifices you make to game on linux?
There’s no AutoHDR at all, so yeah.
Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default
#136Ironically, Outlook has been opening mailto links in the Windows mail app for me, which I’ve never once used. So if they want override defaults somewhere, this is the only one I would allow.
Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default
#137Windows is just full of hostile, anti-user patterns these days. I've considered building a windows box just to have a gaming rig multiple times over the last few years, but every time an article like this or their crusade against Chrome reminds me that Bill Gates is still the same anti-trust monster he was in the 90s.
You don't need Windows for gaming any more. Ubuntu 22.04 comes with graphics drivers. Steam has Steam Play and Lutris has a huge library of install scripts, so everything is handled for you. The one thing you will need to do occasionally is experiment with different Wine distributions. This means you will need to right click on your game and select the distribution from a drop-down box. Exhausting, I know.
Here's the thing... I have limited time for gaming and when I want to play I just want to sit down and play. My days of sodding about with (the equivalent of) autoexec.bat, config.sys, QEMM configurations, drivers and IRQ allocations are way way behind me for one when one of these combos of drivers and scripts doesn't work, or my game isn't supported, and I just want to spend a hour or two gaming to chill out.
Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default
#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
Apple sells the ability to be part of an 'in-group'. People don't buy their phones for their computing abilities, they do it to have access to other Apple users. Its a psychology trick that took decades of marketing to pull off, but they are deeply entrenched as someone's identity. These users have a religious devotion and will defend them, because an attack on Apple is an attack on them and their group. If you don't…
This is such a funny take I see so often parroted by the self proclaimed ‘out-crowd’. Your need to feel different and therefore superior clouds your judgment. Some users like iPhones since they are reliable and consistent, exactly like a phone should be.
I'm in that group. I like the "openness" of Android more. But the iphone 7 gifted from my mother is still supported while the samsung i bought in 2019 is not anymore.
I don't really care particularly about the icloud/imessage ecosystem but all close people around me have iphones (the network effect was not the primary reason for the switch).
Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default
#139The title is a little clickbaity - the behaviour can be changed: “ Ultimately though, if this experience isn't right for you, you can turn off this feature the first time it launches in Microsoft Edge, and then in Outlook settings at any time after that. ” Having said that, Microsoft seem to be entering another phase of baiting antitrust regulators.
> Microsoft seem to be entering another phase of baiting antitrust regulators On the "FedEx Accused of Largest Odometer Rollback Fraud" post, llimos says "When did we move to a "do whatever you think you can get away with" model of society?" [0]. Like light_hue_1 says in response, "Because the cost of fraud is far too low and it's now factored into business plans." That seems to be exactly what is happening here too.…
> the cost of fraud is far too low
If we want to live in a society that's not supported by tech that's weaponized against its users, we need to find better ways to fight back than smugly switching to Linux.
Walking away while they prey on our friends is insufficient. Whatever it is, it has to be costly. Bonus points if it's legal.
Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default
#140Earlier quoted context omitted.
Apple sells the ability to be part of an 'in-group'. People don't buy their phones for their computing abilities, they do it to have access to other Apple users. Its a psychology trick that took decades of marketing to pull off, but they are deeply entrenched as someone's identity. These users have a religious devotion and will defend them, because an attack on Apple is an attack on them and their group. If you don't…
This is such a funny take I see so often parroted by the self proclaimed ‘out-crowd’. Your need to feel different and therefore superior clouds your judgment. Some users like iPhones since they are reliable and consistent, exactly like a phone should be.
>Some users like iPhones since they are reliable and consistent, exactly like a phone should be.
That is just the bare minimum. Its 2023, every phone is like this.
Anyway, any teenager can tell you what its like to have the wrong kind of bubbles. They are extremely susceptible to in-group bias. Heck I wore Abercrombie and American Eagle, it wasn't because the clothes fit.
I even had a single buddy, age 30, recently get peer pressured into getting an iphone because his sister said "I don't date green bubbles". He took it to heart.
At some point, its denialism to think in-group bias doesnt exist. Not that someone exploited can easily admit to it, its far too difficult to imagine your brain being incorrect about something. Much easier to say things like "they are reliable and consistent" than to accept that marketers have exploited us.