The hustle never ends and I'm so over it

Post by hirvi74 » Fri, Jun 23, 2023, 1:33 AM UTC

parpfish wrote: post #14

jghn wrote: post #7

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This was an eye opening moment when it happened to me. Almost nothing has the impact it purports to have. Percentage-wise, very few things are the emergency/fire that people make them out to be, at least in the grand scheme of things. I think part of it is that people get too wrapped up in their local world and don't see the big picture. For instance "If we don't get this widget added to the thingamabob in the next 3…

not everybody gets sucked into firefighting to 'save the company'. if the fire started due to something you helped create and you have even a smidgen of impostor syndrome, fighting fires is about about saving yourself and cleaning up the messes you've made. the only way to prevent this is to build a team with a strong sense of collective ownership/responsibility and a healthy attitude towards mistakes.

Post by freetinker » Fri, Jun 23, 2023, 3:25 AM UTC

KnobbleMcKnees wrote: post #109

fairity wrote: post #55

> I’m not against hustle, but when the hustle becomes an end in-and-of-itself, rather than a means to an end, that is alarming. Is it possible to hustle all the time & not burn out? Yes, but it takes a special type of person who values the hustle, in and of itself, which is rare. It's important to realize that there's no right or wrong with what you choose to value. And, as an employee, changing your org's values is…

> Instead, get clear on what your values are. Then, find an environment where you're surrounded with people who share your values. You'll be much happier. This is a nice thought in theory but if your values include something along the lines of "treat people like they have families and lives and don't use them like a resource until they burn out", that eliminates a surprisingly large number of companies. Having worked…

Post by newswasboring » Fri, Jun 23, 2023, 8:47 AM UTC

supriyo-biswas wrote: post #102

JohnFen wrote: post #91

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Why is the existence of that team member a problem? You don't have to read the emails until the start of the workday no matter when they send them.

Because their “endeavor” becomes the benchmark for other employees to replicate, leading to a race to the bottom.

Post by Claude_Shannon » Fri, Jun 23, 2023, 10:01 AM UTC

pc86 wrote: post #107

Claude_Shannon wrote: post #47

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That feels like USA thing. In Europe it's way lower in average, in Poland average programmist will earn 6-7k per month - around 1.700 USD Heard similarly about pay in Germany - being a programmist doesn't pay you well

Literally the first sentence: "I think it depends on where you live."

Post by AndrewKemendo » Fri, Jun 23, 2023, 3:59 PM UTC

rocky1138 wrote: post #94

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #35

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This in and of itself is the problem When every system is *critical system for somebody* and the downtime means loss of capacity, then people are actually hurt, and there are real problems when these things do go down. So you become numb, like a triage nurse, to real suffering because you’re in a system that doesn’t actually give people the resources to fix these things. Most of the harms in the world are when large…

Have you ever read The Machine Stops? You might find it enjoyable. https://web.cs.ucdavis.edu/~rogaway/classes/188/materials/th...