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Ask HN: Why does Apple refuse to add window snapping to macOS?

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Re: Ask HN: Why does Apple refuse to add window snapping to macOS?

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post #107

It may be basic, but what about the double clicking on sides of windows to make it expand, and double clicking on edges? Does does that not qualify as snapping?

No. What people want is a clone of the "Windows Snap" feature Microsoft introduced with Windows 7 where you drag a window right or left take up half the screen.

Re: Ask HN: Why does Apple refuse to add window snapping to macOS?

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I have been using spectacle app since a long time and I love it. It lets you define keyboard shortcuts to make it easy to size and move windows around. Here is the website https://www.spectacleapp.com/

I used to use it and it’s now not maintained. Others here have said that Rectangle duplicates a lot of the function (intentionally).

Re: Ask HN: Why does Apple refuse to add window snapping to macOS?

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post #41

My go to example to explain the One True Mac Way of Window management is the “The many windows of John Siracusa” podcast from ATP a few years ago. The relevant discussion starts at 1:33:00 https://atp.fm/episodes/96 Siracusa, who grew up as a (classic) Mac user, explains his tiling and overlapping habits to Arment and Liss, who grew up as Microsoft Windows users and later switched, and they gasp in utter horror, shoc…

Windows users who just maximize everything all the time and get giant empty white bars on the sides of their browser shock me. What an insane waste of space. You see windows users with Ultrawides and a maximized browser where the site is centered and 90% of the width of the screen is serving nothing but site border and it just makes me scream.

macOS replacing the “Zoom” stoplight buttons with “Full Screen” as the default behavior still irks me. Why would I ever want something full screen other than a video or game?

Re: Ask HN: Why does Apple refuse to add window snapping to macOS?

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post #25

I think this comes down to Apple's envisaged window management paradigm being centered around full-screen windows. In Apple's UX view, it seems like you're meant to maximize windows to "spaces", and switch between workspaces using a few gestures (4 finger swipes mainly) to reveal all windows, and swap between workspaces that way. Rectangle, as others have pointed out, give you the "snap" experience you would expect f…

I have a huge screen and a mouse and keyboard. Full screen apps make absolutely no sense for me, and there's no way for me to "4 finger swipe".

Re: Ask HN: Why does Apple refuse to add window snapping to macOS?

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post #109

https://patents.google.com/patent/US6661436B2/en Method for providing window snap control for a split screen computer program GUI https://patents.justia.com/patent/6661436 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250201392 https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/07/gnome-shell-quarter-tili...

So an expired patent which was previously owned by IBM is why Apple cannot have windows tiling but Windows and Linux have had for decades?

Re: Ask HN: Why does Apple refuse to add window snapping to macOS?

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post #109

https://patents.google.com/patent/US6661436B2/en Method for providing window snap control for a split screen computer program GUI https://patents.justia.com/patent/6661436 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250201392 https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/07/gnome-shell-quarter-tili...

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Re: Ask HN: Why does Apple refuse to add window snapping to macOS?

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I use Magnet which is sweet. https://magnet.crowdcafe.com/

Ooooo good tip, thanks! This might be a good replacement for Divvy [0], which I used until it EoL’d [0] https://mizage.com/divvy/

Really miss Divvy (RIP). At the risk of causing a good thread on Apple's weird inability to lauch a really valuable OS feature devolve into a list of workarounds, Hammerspoon (a generic automation tool) plus this script (https://gist.github.com/artburkart/15b62f1a741eef0f74492860a...) offer a really good equivalent, with the added ability to change hotkeys, extend behaviour, modify behaviour, etc. since it's just a script. I was devastated for a brief while when Divvy (and then ShiftIt) stopped working, but haven't looked back for a while.

Re: Ask HN: Why does Apple refuse to add window snapping to macOS?

#138
post #30

What about that interminable animation every time you fullscreen a window or switch between fullscreen windows? It should be at least twice as fast and there's not even any way to hack it to speed it up. You just have to live with it. ("reduce motion" changes it to a crossfade but doesn't make it faster) While we're at it, the Dock has always been bad. And the top menu bar was good for the original Macintosh with a t…

I still have to meet anybody that is not at a minimum annoyed by the macos animations. I literally stopped using the spaces feature because of that!. The default animation got me dizzy all the time, but even with that one disabled via accessibility settings they keep a terribly slow fading animation. It's absolutely ridiculous for a professional machine to impose these things on you.

I feel the same way. I would much prefer no animation at all, and an instant transition between spaces.

Apparently this is possible with yabai (https://github.com/koekeishiya/yabai), but it requires disabling system integrity protection which I am personally uncomfortable with.

Re: Ask HN: Why does Apple refuse to add window snapping to macOS?

#139
post #133
post #41

My go to example to explain the One True Mac Way of Window management is the “The many windows of John Siracusa” podcast from ATP a few years ago. The relevant discussion starts at 1:33:00 https://atp.fm/episodes/96 Siracusa, who grew up as a (classic) Mac user, explains his tiling and overlapping habits to Arment and Liss, who grew up as Microsoft Windows users and later switched, and they gasp in utter horror, shoc…

Windows users who just maximize everything all the time and get giant empty white bars on the sides of their browser shock me. What an insane waste of space. You see windows users with Ultrawides and a maximized browser where the site is centered and 90% of the width of the screen is serving nothing but site border and it just makes me scream. macOS replacing the “Zoom” stoplight buttons with “Full Screen” as the def…

In the 2000s there was a huge push for distraction free software. Nearly every application was coming up with a distraction free mode.

Maximizing your window is similar to that. At the same time it doesn’t completely eliminate the window context and the ability to easily switch between applications like full screen does.

Re: Ask HN: Why does Apple refuse to add window snapping to macOS?

#140
post #107

It may be basic, but what about the double clicking on sides of windows to make it expand, and double clicking on edges? Does does that not qualify as snapping?

No. What people want is a clone of the "Windows Snap" feature Microsoft introduced with Windows 7 where you drag a window right or left take up half the screen.

Oh okay. Personally I wouldn't want that.

I would like to organize my computer's desktop the way I would organize physical stuff on my desk, just freeform style.

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