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The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by atty »

ahahahahah wrote: post #78
hombre_fatal wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kinda crazy how a lower mod can request a higher mod's removal. Pretty unhealthy precedent for a community where mods are already power hungry lunatics and your most obsessed power hungry mod who spends all day needlessly moderating the subreddit can appeal to reddit with "look how much more active I am than him; he barely does anything! So, gimme the subreddit pls."

> mods are already power hungry lunatics and your most obsessed power hungry mod I mean, here you are just describing the mods that are holding these subreddits hostage. It seems appropriate for reddit to return these to the community in the case where the obsessed power hungry mod's behavior goes against what the community wants.

Holding them hostage? The reddits I’ve been a part of voted to be closed.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by sarchertech »

notyourwork wrote: post #119
mrtranscendence wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are distinct questions here: whether Reddit has the right to forcibly reopen subreddits, whether it’s justified in doing so, and whether it’s a good idea at all. The first isn’t in dispute, but the other two are open for debate. It could all go super well and everyone forgets about this shakeup, or it could engender further animosity and chase people (particularly trend-setting power users) to some other platfo…

> whether Reddit has the right to forcibly reopen subreddits Reddit owns Reddit, no? They have the right to do whatever they want with their website.

Reread the comment you are replying to.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by xyst »

Havoc wrote: post #16

They’re gonna be left with bottom of the barrel mods. It’s a thankless task to begin with - a marginal proposition at best. Add some threats as a thank you for the unpaid work and it becomes downright abusive Who the hell is going to want to mod in that context?

Reddit management is delusional. The IPO money is blinding them.

I really hope a mass migration to lemmy instances really sticks.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by anigbrowl »

mattmaroon wrote: post #42

I don’t blame them. Reddit owns the subreddits, not redditors. I have no idea why someone would put the time required into moderating a large sub for no money just for Reddit’s benefit in the first place. A Reddit model where the mods share in profits (kind of how YouTube creators do) would be interesting. But if you’re going to sign up for that, you can’t expect Reddit to just let you tank their site. It was never y…

Landlordism is a parasitical economic strategy.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by none_to_remain »

revscat wrote: post #35
Havoc wrote: post #16

They’re gonna be left with bottom of the barrel mods. It’s a thankless task to begin with - a marginal proposition at best. Add some threats as a thank you for the unpaid work and it becomes downright abusive Who the hell is going to want to mod in that context?

This was my thought as well. To answer your question, though, I imagine bad faith actors of various flavors will be flocking the site: 1. Corporate marketing departments 2. Unpopular political/religious factions seeking to surreptitiously "move the needle" 3. Those who wanted to become mods before but didn't make the cut for completely valid reasons. Now they have an opportunity, only the quality will decrease as a r…

There's been no "make the cut". There's been first-come-first-served, followed by obtaining the favor of the first-come.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by fluidcruft »

garbagecoder wrote: post #76
ramesh31 wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>The power-tripping is payment in itself for those types. As if the current mods are any different? Honestly I don't mind this at all. The big subreddits have become so ossified in their power structures, that each community is its' own little fiefdom now. There is massive friction to being able to post anywhere. Reddit would be objectively better with a less heavy handed approach to moderation, and some kind of site…

>As if the current mods are any different? People haven't liked this much when I've said it in the past, but I think there's more to this than just API pricing. I think there's a lot of general discontent about how reddit works that saw people more likely to support this strike. Some because it was the last straw, some to watch it burn. While I do think reddit is blundering and taking their free labor and content for…

Admin has been particularly horrible lately. Mods complaining is the tip of the iceberg. Today's Reddit is a far cry from what it used to be. Honestly I do have this sort of feeling that I could care less if it dies.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by jamaicahest »

jedberg wrote: post #107
Havoc wrote: post #16

They’re gonna be left with bottom of the barrel mods. It’s a thankless task to begin with - a marginal proposition at best. Add some threats as a thank you for the unpaid work and it becomes downright abusive Who the hell is going to want to mod in that context?

The /r/science mods are all coming back on Monday, a decision they made a few days ago, before any threats were made. They are worried that if they got replaced, it would be with people who would destroy the community they worked so hard to build. I suspect a lot of communities, especially the smaller ones, feel the same way.

And thus, Reddit holds all the power. If the mods are so attached to their community, that Reddit can dictate whatever terms they want, then the mods have no leverage.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by Siecje »

bytesizedbitch wrote: post #99
Havoc wrote: post #16

They’re gonna be left with bottom of the barrel mods. It’s a thankless task to begin with - a marginal proposition at best. Add some threats as a thank you for the unpaid work and it becomes downright abusive Who the hell is going to want to mod in that context?

I used to moderate a support subreddit, we eventually moved to Discord and encouraged everyone to move there as well. Behaviour such as only supports our move.

I wish Discords were discoverable.

Why do I need so many members to show up when search for servers? That means I need to have a community somewhere else.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by aeternum »

Havoc wrote: post #16

They’re gonna be left with bottom of the barrel mods. It’s a thankless task to begin with - a marginal proposition at best. Add some threats as a thank you for the unpaid work and it becomes downright abusive Who the hell is going to want to mod in that context?

People want power, why wouldn't you want to be a mod of a popular subreddit?

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by BoxFour »

notyourwork wrote: post #119
mrtranscendence wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are distinct questions here: whether Reddit has the right to forcibly reopen subreddits, whether it’s justified in doing so, and whether it’s a good idea at all. The first isn’t in dispute, but the other two are open for debate. It could all go super well and everyone forgets about this shakeup, or it could engender further animosity and chase people (particularly trend-setting power users) to some other platfo…

> whether Reddit has the right to forcibly reopen subreddits Reddit owns Reddit, no? They have the right to do whatever they want with their website.

> *The first isn’t in dispute*
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