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Digg's v4 launch: an optimism born of necessity (2018)

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Re: Digg's v4 launch: an optimism born of necessity (2018)

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Post by kaetemi »

radarsat1 wrote: post #82
unsupp0rted wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is why I’m excited for the Reddit third party apps change. In a few years nobody will remember that this is what precipitated the fall of Reddit. It’s already turned into an echo-chamber of nonsense, ruled by all-powerful mods to whom every user is a racist transphobe nazi homophobe enemy. Even the smaller subs catch the contagion year over year. I’ve been a Redditor since before the narwhal baconed at midnight.…

I don't know about the social justice issues, but I've found that a growing problem with reddit is what I'll summarize as "the rules". I admit I'm much more of a lurker than a contributor, but I do post things from time to time. Comments fairly frequently in technical forums, and posts much less frequently, but when they are, they are either: 1) to show a project I did, or 2) to ask a technical question. Basically al…

Boards that have rules against self-promotion are a sign that they're centered around one or a group of influencers, or that the board intends to promote whoever is running it, rather than being a real social community with mutual interests where people actually learn to know one another.

Re: Digg's v4 launch: an optimism born of necessity (2018)

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Post by pdntspa »

btreecat wrote: post #118
unsupp0rted wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is why I’m excited for the Reddit third party apps change. In a few years nobody will remember that this is what precipitated the fall of Reddit. It’s already turned into an echo-chamber of nonsense, ruled by all-powerful mods to whom every user is a racist transphobe nazi homophobe enemy. Even the smaller subs catch the contagion year over year. I’ve been a Redditor since before the narwhal baconed at midnight.…

As someone who used to mod, jfc you're clearly one of the folks who was a problem if that's your opening position. I know that had you stepped up to help out one of your favorite subs, you'd have a different lense. You comment is v clearly just ignorant.

I have to agree with GP, I am part of several subreddits where the moderators clearly enjoy being kings of their precious little fiefdom. Some of these folks are downright fascists, and the only way to fix it is to start a new subreddit or try appeal to reddit staff

Maybe the burden of moderation makes them this way, I don't know. But reddit is worse off with them.

Re: Digg's v4 launch: an optimism born of necessity (2018)

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Post by kolanos »

deergomoo wrote: post #18

Good read. Interesting that the author’s takeaway is that folks consider Digg v4 to be a catastrophic launch because of the myriad technical issues. I don’t even remember there being technical issues, I just remember logging in one day to find a website I enjoyed replaced with a bunch of crap I wasn’t interested in.

I remember Kevin Rose talking about the impending V4 and being struck by how obsessed he was with Digg doing every popular web trend at the time. He was particularly focused on everything Facebook did to the point where Digg aesthetically started to even look like Facebook. It seemed like Digg had all but abandoned what made it great in pursuit of copying others. Maybe this was VC pressure, who knows.

Re: Digg's v4 launch: an optimism born of necessity (2018)

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Post by Andrex »

Coincidentally, I've been going through Digg's history including v4 and their early history, because it's nostalgic for me.

What people don't realize is Digg actually had four founders, depending on how you count them. Owen Byrne[0] has as his bio "The person who built digg for $1000 @ $10/hour, lol". Going by that, I don't think he shared in any equity.

The whole site was bootstrapped for apparently $6000 total.

People also think Digg turned down Google's $200 million offer, but it was the other way around. Google walked away after some due diligence.

Knowing all this, Digg's fall seems kind of inevitable. That said Reddit never really filled that hole IMO.

0. https://twitter.com/owenbyrne

Re: Digg's v4 launch: an optimism born of necessity (2018)

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Post by anaganisk »

dimgl wrote: post #108
nunobrito wrote: post #16

Albeit unpopular opinion, this kind of things is one of the reasons why I'll always push for Java instead of a jigsaw of different languages that sound cool. Stability, scalability and simplicity. Yes, you read correctly. Whomever complains that Java is bloated or complex, needs only to look on who is writing that "piece" of code. Expert developers will write proper code that anyone can maintain and keep simple. Too…

> Stability, scalability and simplicity. These are not the adjectives I associate with Java...

Java has been stable for years I think, they don't switch frameworks and paradigms every weekend. Code you wrote in 10 years ago in Java8 most probably don't even need a refactor for Java 22. And funny enough just yesterday there was a thread on reddit where people still claim to be running Java 8 on prod, now that's not a good thing but 10+ years even after deprecating means something here.

Simplicity, you can code Java apps to be as simple as possible, unless you use a framework like spring, but that's true for any language. I used vert.X and it's expressJS of Java, very lean, basic but more batteries available if needed but still manages to be simple. Java doesn't have complicated concepts to understand nor does it have 100 ways to do the same thing.

Scalability, dockerize and scale to your heart's content or tweak the JVM params and max out your hardware.

What am I missing, not trying to be snarky, maybe you wrote more Java than me, may be for years, so genuinely curious to understand. For additional context, I coded in NodeJs, Python, Go, Swift and Java. and each have its own merits. So I'm not biased against Java.

Re: Digg's v4 launch: an optimism born of necessity (2018)

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Post by mrguyorama »

adamrezich wrote: post #127
btreecat wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who used to mod, jfc you're clearly one of the folks who was a problem if that's your opening position. I know that had you stepped up to help out one of your favorite subs, you'd have a different lense. You comment is v clearly just ignorant.

"that's just what a racist transphobe nazi homophobe enemy would say!", basically?

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Re: Digg's v4 launch: an optimism born of necessity (2018)

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Post by ojbyrne »

Andrex wrote: post #134

Coincidentally, I've been going through Digg's history including v4 and their early history, because it's nostalgic for me. What people don't realize is Digg actually had four founders, depending on how you count them. Owen Byrne[0] has as his bio "The person who built digg for $1000 @ $10/hour, lol". Going by that, I don't think he shared in any equity. The whole site was bootstrapped for apparently $6000 total. Peo…

I had a significant amount of equity. Take most of the numbers with a grain of salt.

Re: Digg's v4 launch: an optimism born of necessity (2018)

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Post by ojbyrne »

mr90210 wrote: post #15
neom wrote: post #9

Kevin Rose: We migrated from LAMP to Cassandra because LAMP doesn't scale and Cassandra does. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQNBcIPSROs

Hasn’t Facebook moved away from LAMP because of… scale? Given how many users they have I suppose they know a thing or two about scale.

They still use L, M and P (though the P is now Hack). Not sure about the A.

Re: Digg's v4 launch: an optimism born of necessity (2018)

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Post by slg »

adamrezich wrote: post #127
btreecat wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who used to mod, jfc you're clearly one of the folks who was a problem if that's your opening position. I know that had you stepped up to help out one of your favorite subs, you'd have a different lense. You comment is v clearly just ignorant.

"that's just what a racist transphobe nazi homophobe enemy would say!", basically?

You may be joking, but the specifics insults there are indicative of a certain worldview. OP only used words that would come from a small percentage of the population and insults that wouldn't be relevant on most subreddits.

For example, these wouldn't be the insults you would here from anyone who qualifies as centrist or anything further right unless you are legitimately doing something wrong. There are also plenty of more conservative subreddits with awful mods too that would never use those insults. And if someone calls you a "transphobe" on some niche gardening subreddit, odds are you are doing something obnoxious and off topic that would upset the mods regardless of whether you are actually a transphobe.

Combine that all together and it starts to sound like OP is one of those people who is "running into assholes all day" without ever questioning whether that is any indication of their own behavior.

Re: Digg's v4 launch: an optimism born of necessity (2018)

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Post by mrguyorama »

geerlingguy wrote: post #94
radarsat1 wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know about the social justice issues, but I've found that a growing problem with reddit is what I'll summarize as "the rules". I admit I'm much more of a lurker than a contributor, but I do post things from time to time. Comments fairly frequently in technical forums, and posts much less frequently, but when they are, they are either: 1) to show a project I did, or 2) to ask a technical question. Basically al…

Yeah; almost all the subreddits with more than a few thousand members have decided you can't post any links to anything of your own, labeling it self promotion. I think corporate blogspam is to blame. But I have been soft-banned from the Raspberry Pi subreddit for years (which is rich!) for self promotion since I used to link to my blog posts about various Pi topics. So I started doing text posts, and would have 3-5…

>But I have been soft-banned from the Raspberry Pi subreddit for years (which is rich!) for self promotion since I used to link to my blog posts about various Pi topics.

"I was banned from a subreddit for self promotion since I promoted my own blog"

Like, come on man.

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