It should have a split keyboard and thus be half the size.
Spacetop, a radical laptop with no screen
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Re: Spacetop, a radical laptop with no screen
#132Great, now drop the keyboard and it will be much more portable. Unfortunately you'd need a compact input device with good haptic feedback. Obviously it has a keyboard [1], but when the screen fits so nicely over it dropping the screen doesn't seem like such a huge bonus. As it stands I'd probably prefer a screen for the 2% of my computing time where I actually want my world to be "public". Still, very cool to see thi…
> but when the screen fits so nicely over it dropping the screen doesn't seem like such a huge bonus.
> As it stands I'd probably prefer a screen for the 2% of my computing time where I actually want my world to be "public".
Yes. Why drop the screen at all? No reason you couldn't have glasses like this on a regular laptop, adding a second screen "behind" your main display. Or just close it to about 45 degrees.
I love the idea of a private display, or a floating multiscreen layout, but I dont want to sacrifice the regular screen for that.
Re: Spacetop, a radical laptop with no screen
#133For a reality check on those large virtual desktop illustrations, while I do like the (same hardware?) NReal Light's 1080p, its 52 deg FOV means looking at such a desktop through a smaller, not-curved, head-pointed portal. Picture holding up your laptop, so it appears 5 fists across diagonally, and then waving it around, likely synchronized with your neck. Which looks something vaguely like these:[1][2]. [1] Phone ph…
Can you use the nreal without activation?
I just got the nreal air recently. Don't know if the nreal light is the same but the airs can be just used as a display through dp alt without the app. However, instead of a floating screen in a fixed position, it will just be a static display that moves with your head.
I will also say, for the nreal airs, they're not quite there yet. It's blurry throughout and completely unreadable off center, I find myself moving the glasses around so different parts of the screen will be in the center. Regardless of center or edge they they're always a bit blurry and hurt my eyes, and after taking them off I can't focus my eyes on things far away. I still like them as a low resolution screen for watching youtube while washing the dishes for example, but their use is quite limited.
Re: Spacetop, a radical laptop with no screen
#134Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’d go for a NUC (roughly 4.5" x 4.5" x 1.5") or similar plus separate keyboard as the next best and arguably more flexible solution.
Unfortunately, last time I checked, Intel NUCs does not work from USB-C power and require external power brick.
This is why I’d prefer a Mac mini as a little home server. The price difference is obviously a massive drawback, but the power brick Intel use is a right PITA.
Re: Spacetop, a radical laptop with no screen
#135Earlier quoted context omitted.
Exactly - Apple has all the pieces to absolutely nail the AR workspace experience. Reality OS Headset built on top of iOS (and MacOS) could easily allow bluetooth peripherals (keyboard/mouse) to pair with to their headset, and you've got multi-monitor workspace ready to go in a physical space that normally wouldn't accomodate it. Need more CPU/GPU than the Headset provides? Just use Sidecar to push your Mac desktop i…
And while we are at connecting the dots... One main problem with VR/AR is how the hell are you supposed to have online meeting while under a ski mask? The headset could include discreet lidar/else captor to track eyes movements. Meanwhile the base could track head movements and mouth expression from the outside. Bam you have every data points to animate a memoji. I guess through an API more advanced avatars could be…
Yes, tracking the entire face is already being done in prototypes. I guess Meta in particular is extremely interested in rolling this out, it enables them to analyze better which content and ads you react to.
Re: Spacetop, a radical laptop with no screen
#136I don't know if the AR/VR space will ever get functional as a replacement for standard monitors but there is an interesting bifurcation: some screens are becoming more "real" (touch screens) and some are becoming almost completely dematerialized (projections in our visual field). I still think conventional large monitors will survive both these new "screen forms" for real work, because the accuracy and amount of info…
I fly long distances regularly for my job. One of the things I struggle with is back & neck pain because of working on a tiny, constrained laptop that forces me to look down. Of course in the office or at home I have a decent, ergonomic set-up, but for people that are constantly on the move I could sincerely see an AR-first device as a way of improving quality of life. For this reason alone I'm considering buying one…
Your use case could probably be solved fairly simply by a detachable screen that is attached on the seat in front of you. This is assuming you touch type.
The only thing that might be missing is a universal means to hang the screen without disturbing the folks sitting in front of you. Sounds like a kickstarter type project :-)
Re: Spacetop, a radical laptop with no screen
#137It's an interesting idea, but 1080p per eye is way, way too low a resolution to actually use for most people.
Is "most" an alias for "more than 50%"? I don't think so in general, given the amount of cheap laptops I see around. Maybe it's true for the people that are willing to pay $2000.
What's odd with this device is that it runs Android. I used Android with a keyboard and a mouse in the past but it was a sub par desktop environment and for $2000 one should make sure to be able to have all files, mail, etc to work on available from Android.
Re: Spacetop, a radical laptop with no screen
#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
And while we are at connecting the dots... One main problem with VR/AR is how the hell are you supposed to have online meeting while under a ski mask? The headset could include discreet lidar/else captor to track eyes movements. Meanwhile the base could track head movements and mouth expression from the outside. Bam you have every data points to animate a memoji. I guess through an API more advanced avatars could be…
Yes, tracking the entire face is already being done in prototypes. I guess Meta in particular is extremely interested in rolling this out, it enables them to analyze better which content and ads you react to.
People in the meeting with standard laptops and desktops with a camera are going to show their faces to the other participants. What are they going to see for the ones wearing a headset?
Re: Spacetop, a radical laptop with no screen
#139Great, now drop the keyboard and it will be much more portable. Unfortunately you'd need a compact input device with good haptic feedback. Obviously it has a keyboard [1], but when the screen fits so nicely over it dropping the screen doesn't seem like such a huge bonus. As it stands I'd probably prefer a screen for the 2% of my computing time where I actually want my world to be "public". Still, very cool to see thi…
> now drop the keyboard
Ok but then you basically have a phone with some glasses and a tracker.
> Sightful built the Spacetop around a Snapdragon 865 from 2019, rather than the more advanced Snapdragon 8 Gen 2, for example. Specs include 8GB of RAM and 256GB of storage
Wait, it actually already is a smartphone, at least in specs anyway. Who'd go for a laptop without at least half a TB of storage these days? And 8GB of RAM, that's like a decent laptop from almost a decade ago.
Re: Spacetop, a radical laptop with no screen
#140Great, now drop the keyboard and it will be much more portable. Unfortunately you'd need a compact input device with good haptic feedback. Obviously it has a keyboard [1], but when the screen fits so nicely over it dropping the screen doesn't seem like such a huge bonus. As it stands I'd probably prefer a screen for the 2% of my computing time where I actually want my world to be "public". Still, very cool to see thi…
> now drop the keyboard Ok but then you basically have a phone with some glasses and a tracker. > Sightful built the Spacetop around a Snapdragon 865 from 2019, rather than the more advanced Snapdragon 8 Gen 2, for example. Specs include 8GB of RAM and 256GB of storage Wait, it actually already is a smartphone, at least in specs anyway. Who'd go for a laptop without at least half a TB of storage these days? And 8GB o…
Apple customers?