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Re: It Wasn't AI

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It's a cat-and-mouse game for sure. At the first level, any dongle that simply types the AI response through a fake HID device will be easy to detect. No real essay writer just types an entire document in one go, with no edits. They move paragraphs around, expand some, delete others, etc. So this dongle will have to convincingly start with a worse version that's too short (or too long!). It'll have to pipe the GPT ou…

Sure, but all of the above regarding making input look human is trivially easy -- because, again, AI. More stringent hardware based input systems are likely non-starters due to ADA requirements. For example, disabled students have their own input systems and a college will have to allow them reasonable accommodations. Then there's the technical challenges. Some authoritarian minded schools might try this route, but I…

> whether it's actually a problem for students to use AI to augment their education.

To augment? No, but the problem is we can't tell the difference between a student who is augmenting their education with AI, and a student who is replacing their education with AI. Hence things like in-person proctored exams, where we can say and enforce rules like "you're allowed to use ChatGPT for research, but not to write your answers for you".

Re: It Wasn't AI

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IMO one of the way that most schools are going to end up being able to detect plagiarism is going to be a custom word processor (or something similar) that can track all of the edits made into a document. Basically, have the students type an essay where all of the keystrokes are recorded by the program, and so it can be detected by the program whether someone is copy and pasting whole essays, or if someone is actuall…

This seems so backwards to me. If it's so easy to just copy and paste an essay from an AI generator that is of such high quality that it cannot be detected, then why are we still making students learn such an obviously obsolete skill? Why penalize students for using technology? Surely, there are still things that are difficult to do even with the help of AI. Teach your students to use these tools, and then raise the…

> If it's so easy to just copy and paste an essay from an AI generator that is of such high quality that it cannot be detected, then why are we still making students learn such an obviously obsolete skill? Why penalize students for using technology?

That's like asking, why do we have students do PE (physical education) when professional athletes exist? Clearly, having students play basketball is obsolete, because the NBA exists. Essay-writing is PE for thinking.

Re: It Wasn't AI

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People getting into AI today follow courses like: LLM University - https://docs.cohere.com/docs/llmu and never get to learn about linear regression, bias and variance, cost function and gradient descent, regularisation and optimisation - all the good things taught by Andrew Ng in the amazing course he run 12 years ago just before creating Coursera. Is that a good thing?

I think people getting into AI today instead ask ChatGPT and similar models questions like: > "What field of modern science relies heavily on "linear regression, bias and variance, cost function and gradient descent, regularisation and optimisation"?" To dive into a particular topic: > "Provide a course outline for a four week course, meeting twice a week, that focuses on linear regression in the context of machine l…

With the rate of hallucination, learning via ChatGPT is questionable at best, especially when someone doesn't know enough to know when it is hallucinating.

Re: It Wasn't AI

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This seems so backwards to me. If it's so easy to just copy and paste an essay from an AI generator that is of such high quality that it cannot be detected, then why are we still making students learn such an obviously obsolete skill? Why penalize students for using technology? Surely, there are still things that are difficult to do even with the help of AI. Teach your students to use these tools, and then raise the…

> If it's so easy to just copy and paste an essay from an AI generator that is of such high quality that it cannot be detected, then why are we still making students learn such an obviously obsolete skill? Why penalize students for using technology? That's like asking, why do we have students do PE (physical education) when professional athletes exist? Clearly, having students play basketball is obsolete, because the…

The difference is that GPT can convince the teacher that the student is a competent essay-writer, but can’t convince the PE teacher that the student is an NBA player.
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