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Disturbing to see so many in favor of removing our bedrock rights because they are afraid of a tool. Nobody wants to end up like the UK or Australia in terms of reduced rights. That was literally the impetus for the creation of the USA.
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I'm confident it's white men with a history of misogyny and access to guns. The data supports that too. We love screaming about the one offs but that's smoke and mirrors.
The FBI crime statistics I cited [0] show that whites have one of the lowest per-capita homicide rates. Specifically, the white+Hispanic [1] homicide rate is 1.16 per 100k, while the Black rate is 7.98. So which data are you referring to? Because the data I can find supports the exact opposite of your claim. [0] https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-... [1] Due to how the FBI reports Hispanic et…
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Don't forget to view the trend lines. Don't go any place where they're headed up. Checks data... that means... No to America.
"Don't go any place where they're headed up." So, most place since the pandemic? Crime rates fluctuates and have local variances. Again, a single point of comparison is not a good indicator of whether to move to some place or not. Even within the US you can move from a high crime area to a low crime area. There have been some articles on here recently about celebrities doing that.
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Do you have evidence for that because psychologists disagree with you. But let's pretend they don't. I'm all for universal mental health care. How does that help? What can we do to curtail gun violence, if we take the stance that it's a mental health issue? Evaluate everyone before letting them buy guns? Sold! Hell, I'll give mine back (after I've damaged them beyond use so no one can have them in the future). We can…
Evidence for what, specifically? It's pretty obvious that society is having a major mental health crisis, likely caused by social media, and this isn't particularly controversial when talked about in any other context. But in this context, the groupthink of one political tribe is to focus on extremist solutions about the tools themselves as part of the culture war, all but guaranteeing that nothing will really change…
Again, let's pretend you're right. How do you bar someone from buying a gun because of mental health issues that are undiagnosed? Do we do a psych eval as part of purchasing a firearm? There's no part of common sense that allowed your local community to strip guns from you because then you'd be breaking a law by trying to steal from somebody and you'd probably get shot. We are talking about people with mental health issues that, in this scenario, have violent tendencies. I honestly see any way that declaring a mental health state of emergency can actually do anything to stop mass shootings unless it's also paired with stopping fun sales, strict red flag laws and legal confiscation of existing weapons.
Happy to hear an implementation plan that isn't just thoughts and prayers. Abbot (R, TX) says he's all in on mental health now, so let's see what that piece of sh comes up with.
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Is that right? https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/gun-violen...
Yes, the article is combining suicide and murder to come up with a combined "gun violence" metric. It is not a relevant statistic when talking about crime specifically.
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We are living in a democracy. There is a significant portion of the population that does not want any movement on gun control. I understand most Americans agree that we need some type of background checks and other common sense restrictions in place, but the hesitation to implement this is largely because of the extreme faction, and honestly the gun control that there is broad support to pass wouldn't fix the problem…
All polls report a majority of Americans want gun control, it’s not about a lack of movement on gun control, it’s the opposite, controls are being removed with horrible and predictable results. We are heading in the wrong direction on that issue.
You mean the same polls that said Trump had no chance in 2016?
>controls are being removed with horrible and predictable results
Ignoring the objective fact that disarming legal citizens does nothing to quell armed crime, what controls have been removed, and what were these “horrible” results? If anything more gun control has happened in the last 8 years, what with banning bump stocks, % lowers, the attempted ban on 3D printed firearms, red flag laws, and dozens of attempted laws infringing on the 2nd Amendment.
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The FBI crime statistics I cited [0] show that whites have one of the lowest per-capita homicide rates. Specifically, the white+Hispanic [1] homicide rate is 1.16 per 100k, while the Black rate is 7.98. So which data are you referring to? Because the data I can find supports the exact opposite of your claim. [0] https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-... [1] Due to how the FBI reports Hispanic et…
Sorry, I thought we were talking about mass shootings.
That said, mass shootings are a small part of all homicide, so they give the wrong impression of overall violent crime and homicide, and I see no justification for ignoring non-mass homicide. But the media love to focus on them to the exclusion of all else.
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All polls report a majority of Americans want gun control, it’s not about a lack of movement on gun control, it’s the opposite, controls are being removed with horrible and predictable results. We are heading in the wrong direction on that issue.
>All polls You mean the same polls that said Trump had no chance in 2016? >controls are being removed with horrible and predictable results Ignoring the objective fact that disarming legal citizens does nothing to quell armed crime, what controls have been removed, and what were these “horrible” results? If anything more gun control has happened in the last 8 years, what with banning bump stocks, % lowers, the attemp…
citation needed. what's the one unique thing about the united states that makes it #1 in mass shootings? banning bump stocks or other band-aid solutions are not going to make any kind of significant dent in mass murders.
Disturbing to see so many in favor of removing our bedrock rights because they are afraid of a tool. Nobody wants to end up like the UK or Australia in terms of reduced rights. That was literally the impetus for the creation of the USA.