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Sam Altman says era of remote work is over

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Post by flangola7 »

vxNsr wrote: post #36
flangola7 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah that was particularly gross and unbecoming

I think being open and honest about the problems the electorate and elected leaders have caused is the first step in the direction of fixing them.

If wanted to be open and honest he would be attaching the wealthiest and paltry wealth and corporate taxes, not those on the bottom suffering from medical conditions like chemical addiction.

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

ivan_gammel wrote: post #15

I read it as this guy failed to build a distributed team that would meet his expectations and now extrapolates it to the entire industry. I have heard similar conclusions from a founder who invested a lot of money in a big fancy office in a great location only to discover that half of the team prefers full remote. The team was ready to work this way, the founder was not.

Broadly speaking, this is the entire RTO vs. RW debate. Over-extrapolation mixed with religious zeal. That there are multiple optima is anathema in this context.

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Post by villgax »

Lol, nobody asked for his expert opinion on something which has been happening ever since the internet whether it is outsourcing, freelancing or entrepreneurship which by itself begins without renting/buying an office until you need it absolutely. Let people/companies decide what works for them

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Post by andreskytt »

Let’s see what the classics say about this. Mr Conway says, that an organization creates a system in its image. Thus, if the system needs to be very distributed, so does the organization. So unless there is a singular monolithic thing built by a focused local team, a singular monolithic team makes no sense. And a team that’s not like that benefits little from their physical location, as a large chunk of their work is non-physical communication anyway. Even when the other team sits in the same building, who’s going to spend 10 minutes going to another floor when they can just message?

Office architecture is seen as ideologically driven. People like open offices so we do those. People like working from home (or office), so we do that. But office structure is as much part of the architecture of your enterprise as is database or microservice structure. It should aid progress toward a particular goal of the organization and not be subject to any hype in any direction.

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Post by cariP84944 »

chris222 wrote: post #123
_s wrote: post #21

I assume he’s got either direct or indirect links to commercial realestate; as an owner or investor or something else. It makes literally 0 business sense to be forking out anywhere from a few hundred to a few thousand per employee per month to give them a space to work, when that can just be avoided. The amount of cost and overheads involved; from insurance to upkeep to rent to OHS - a work space is probably the nex…

Physical office real estate is a major liability in 2023. All of this noise is about people not accepting that fact.

Let them make noise; they’re the ones that signed the leases, not me.

There is a lot of resource intense duplication to provide office spaces, office furniture, office computers… oh look I have that stuff at home.

Information loss due to generational churn is societies entropy.

The elite are just people. This reality does not put a divine mandate on me to serve some people who happen to be alive when I am.

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Post by dehrmann »

pdonis wrote: post #12

When you actually look at the claim Altman can defend from his own experience, it's not that remote work doesn't work for "the tech industry"; it's that remote work doesn't work for early stage startups . But most of "the tech industry" is not early stage startups. Most of the people working in the tech industry could still be working remotely, while at the same time the small fraction of them that are working at ear…

He does claim that, but you can extend it to early-state projects, even at big companies. It also makes onboarding harder, so you have to include that factor, too.
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