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The least impactful way to spend $300M?

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Re: The least impactful way to spend $300M?

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What is your point?

Probably he means that by giving money to an “elite” school, it just makes it more likely that it will end up hurting the “non-elites”. I don’t necessarily agree with that point by the way because there are students who will have their cost of attendance potentially offset by this donation.

Income inequality doesn't hurt the nonelite.

Re: The least impactful way to spend $300M?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Partly, but it was Milton Friedman at the University of Chicago who helped lay the framework for the "shareholder primacy" theory that really paved the way for the poor longterm corporate management of the last couple of decades.

"Shareholder primacy" led to the invention of modern vaccines and mRNA discoveries. Was this a poor longterm corporate investment?

Do those account for a significant portion of the effect, or are you just cherry picking a couple nice instances? The word modern is doing some heavy lifting as well; shareholder primacy certainly isn't responsible for most of the overall benefit from vaccines.

Re: The least impactful way to spend $300M?

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Could this be some tax and investment dance? Perhaps the money will be used by Harvard to buy a security he holds or has options on washing his hands clean of SEC oversight. Then he executes on the predictable market move, makes the money back and writes down the donation for taxes. Meanwhile, Harvard is still holding whatever long term position they opened so they too are happy. Their cover story is some rather chea…

I think neither a 40-billionaire nor Harvard would risk legal trouble by pulling off such an easily auditable maneuver.

Maybe it sounds conspiratorial but if such schemes were available, I believe Harvard is too well connected to be subject to such scrutiny by those with the power to do such an audit.

The idea that people tossing around hundreds of millions of dollars are on the up and up otherwise they would have consequences doesn't seem to have much historical evidence supporting this dynamic

The Paradise papers leak outlined a lot of these schemes

Re: The least impactful way to spend $300M?

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post #84

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But what? What would be lost without the 300 million? If you can’t be specific then I think it’s to the authors point. I mean, just consider that he spent 300 million and the impact isn’t obvious. At least in your fish example they used it for the intended purpose for some period of time and there is still some low utilization for dried fish. It’s also half of 300 million so it seems they did more with less despite i…

You don’t think doing more good with the same resources is a good thing? Is it not better to save two lives than one life, all else equal?

This is a fascinating question. It's incredibly rhetorical, and I've sat here pondering it for a bit. It's very easy to reply to this question with "well I suppose it depends." And then tack on "What do we consider 'doing good/more good'? What is the nature/species/alignment of the lives being saved, and how are are they equal? Who decides which two lives are better to save than the one, if it's somehow decided that one is better than two? Does the two lives vs one life involve picking between the same two lives, or is it an entirely different set of lives?" and a whole mountain of other questions. It's like asking a magical wish granter to "save two lives" and it does something predictably spiteful like saving two single celled organisms and causing a kitten to die. Thanks for giving me that to chew on.

Re: The least impactful way to spend $300M?

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post #72

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> Hardcore EA proponents will get staunchly defensive about all of this weird spending, but then they’ll single out $300mm donations like this for not going to malaria nets. It’s getting old. Maybe because one is 300mm and one is 30k? It's a difference of four orders of magnitude. It's like saying "EA proponents will get weirdly upset about burning down a house, but then the very next day they'll go and light a candl…

The Harry Potter fan fiction thing was something they got together and voted for. It’s not something they’d criticize because they chose it themselves. I brought it forward as an example of the difference between their criticisms of other people’s donations and their own actual choices for grants. The multi million dollar castle purchase is more recent and more ridiculous. It used ill-gotten FTX funds in the process,…

> I brought it forward as an example of the difference between their criticisms of other people’s donations and their own actual choices for grants.

As I mentioned in my previous post, there are actual reasons to sponsor HPMoR, which you seem to ignore. Perhaps you disagree with those reasons - but there are still reasons.

> The multi million dollar castle purchase is more recent and more ridiculous. It used ill-gotten FTX funds in the process, too.

It kind of sounds like you have an axe to grind; when you examine any large-enough organization under a microscope, you'll probably find something. Why not grind it against the millions of people who aren't donating to charity?

Re: The least impactful way to spend $300M?

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There is that story about KLF actually setting fire to a million pounds [1].

Why don’t the ultra rich give away more money? Why do they spend it on super yachts, houses with 50 bathrooms, and horridly expensive luxury trinkets? Even more to the point, why do they just hang on to vast sums of money they don’t need in bank accounts or other investments? My conclusion is that there isn’t a reason, in the same way that there wasn’t really a reason KLF burned a million quid. Counterfactualising the lives of the rich and powerful is a profound waste of time.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/K_Foundation_Burn_a_Million_...

Re: The least impactful way to spend $300M?

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the war in afghanistan cost taxpayers $300,000,000 per day every day for 20 years, for a total of ~$2,000,000,000,000

For less than the cost of a cup of coffee a day (per taxpayer)...

Today I skipped my coffee so we can get Bin Laden.

Re: The least impactful way to spend $300M?

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Invest it in a beverage company whose customer base is conservative, frat boys, and the working class then aggressively rebrand it with everything they oppose front and center. Proceed to lose six billion dollars of capitalization in six days.

I remember when the NFL did the same thing. Turns out that all addicts can quit short-term, but almost none can quit long-term.

Re: The least impactful way to spend $300M?

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If the elite universities are getting this much in funding and have an almost infinite amount of reserves, why don’t they just make the school free to attend? It makes so much sense, creates enormous good will and increases competition thereby getting even better students. They can charge for boarding and food may be and waive the tuition if needed

Re: The least impactful way to spend $300M?

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I don’t think the comparison is other donations but rather other vanity purchases like sports teams.

At this level, these donations are less about the actual concrete impact but moreso the press and prestige of the funding event itself.

Trying to fit these gifts into the philanthropy mindsets of maximum impact, long termism, EA, etc is missing the point.

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