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Hetzner Introduces ARM64 Cloud Servers

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Re: Hetzner Introduces ARM64 Cloud Servers

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Just send the one you have? I don’t see the problem.

And I also don't see the problem with asking a clarifying question when he does not have what they asked for.

It’s obviously a typo or something similar. The customer support person likely has no idea what you’re talking about, they want a passport with your name on it, they don’t care where it is from.

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You have an address on your passport? I can see how that could cause issues if the address isn't valid. If I'd have to determine if your order was fraudulent or not, I'd err on the side of caution rather than risk having you abuse my server infrastructure (in the case of Hetzner).

A lot of people confuse the passport (Pass) with the national identity card (Personalausweis). There's no place of residence stated on the German passport, but it is part of the Personalausweis. Since German citizens by law are required to own a Personalausweis (there's no mandate to carry it around, just having it somewhere in a drawer suffices), practically all businesses in Germany do rely on the Personalausweis t…

To add to this, it is actually forbidden to have a different main residency than the one on your Personalausweis if you live in Germany. If you move, you have to change it within a few weeks.

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> Never figured out how to use Hertzner. Wanted to try since they get such a good reputation on here, but they banned my account when their system presented no way for me to verify my identity. Is this something new? I (Norwegian) have been using Hetzner for 10+ years, and never had a problem, and never had to attest my identity. CurrentlyI have a four servers running there. The last one was set up approx. a year ago…

It's definitely not new, they required an id 20 years ago. (From EU citizens, so it's not about the country either).

For what it's worth, I have a VM on their cloud offering and I've never had to provide them with an ID.

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post #125

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A lot of people confuse the passport (Pass) with the national identity card (Personalausweis). There's no place of residence stated on the German passport, but it is part of the Personalausweis. Since German citizens by law are required to own a Personalausweis (there's no mandate to carry it around, just having it somewhere in a drawer suffices), practically all businesses in Germany do rely on the Personalausweis t…

This is a very German thing. I’ve never seen ID cards from other countries that include an address of residence. Also the obligation to own an ID card is a very foreign concept in most other countries. I had that issue with German companies before, especially those who rarely deal with international customers. For example in Austria only a few people own an ID card (most people have a passport, but not everyone). So…

Strange for me - the CZ ID cards work the same way as described.

Re: Hetzner Introduces ARM64 Cloud Servers

#135

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You have an address on your passport? I can see how that could cause issues if the address isn't valid. If I'd have to determine if your order was fraudulent or not, I'd err on the side of caution rather than risk having you abuse my server infrastructure (in the case of Hetzner).

A lot of people confuse the passport (Pass) with the national identity card (Personalausweis). There's no place of residence stated on the German passport, but it is part of the Personalausweis. Since German citizens by law are required to own a Personalausweis (there's no mandate to carry it around, just having it somewhere in a drawer suffices), practically all businesses in Germany do rely on the Personalausweis t…

German law requires you to own a Personalausweis or Reisepass (passport). If you have a passport, you are not required to also have an ID card/Personalausweis.

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Geekbench 5 results for rough comparison, best of 3+ runs:

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Intel 1-core VPS single: 719

(2 GB RAM)

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Intel 2-core VPS single: 729

Intel 2-core VPS multi: 1402

(4 GB RAM)

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AMD 2-core VPS single: 1141

AMD 2-core VPS multi: 2214

(2 GB RAM)

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Ampere 2-core VPS single: 872

Ampere 2-core VPS multi: 1716

(4 GB RAM)

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Ampere 16-core VPS single: 880

Ampere 16-core VPS multi: 12143

(32 GB RAM)

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And for some fun, my iPad Pro from 2018, single: 1135

If Android CPUs are 4 years behind Apple, then Arm on servers is maybe 8 years.

Re: Hetzner Introduces ARM64 Cloud Servers

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post #35

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Demand and supply. Even if they did offer equal performance most of your docker images and other binaries may need to be rebuilt. The inertia is hard to beat. AWS has been trying really hard with Graviton 3.

Base docker images, such as Ubuntu have support for multiple architectures. Building your own based on them isn’t really difficult at all; docker buildx works remarkably well and build tools such as maven, sbt, etc. seem to have rather decent support for building multiarch images. Even better if you have decent build automation, implement cross building for amd64 and arm64 once and just make sure your FROM images sup…

Possibly off topic,

I actually registered the org oci-base (https://github.com/oci-base), when Docker Inc. announced the registry fees.

In part as I've been annoyed with multiarch and docker/registry in the past.

Then to top it off the official registry has/is taking ages to support signing/attestation.

Plan is for it to be contributor driven, and RFC style requirements following best practices.

Not had much time to work on it lately, kids, Easter, etc.

Re: Hetzner Introduces ARM64 Cloud Servers

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post #125

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A lot of people confuse the passport (Pass) with the national identity card (Personalausweis). There's no place of residence stated on the German passport, but it is part of the Personalausweis. Since German citizens by law are required to own a Personalausweis (there's no mandate to carry it around, just having it somewhere in a drawer suffices), practically all businesses in Germany do rely on the Personalausweis t…

This is a very German thing. I’ve never seen ID cards from other countries that include an address of residence. Also the obligation to own an ID card is a very foreign concept in most other countries. I had that issue with German companies before, especially those who rarely deal with international customers. For example in Austria only a few people own an ID card (most people have a passport, but not everyone). So…

> I’ve never seen ID cards from other countries that include an address of residence.

In the USA the driver's licenses are ID cards and have addresses. Or if you don't have a license you can get a regular ID card, which has an address. The laws vary from state to state about how long you can go after you move before it gets updated. I'm not aware of a legal requirement to have one though, unless you're driving.

Re: Hetzner Introduces ARM64 Cloud Servers

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Theres a perception that the ARM Altra per-thread performance is really bad. But according to my Minecraft benchmarks in Oracle's instances, its better than old Skylake cloud instances... by how much is hard to say since other tenants generate so much variation, but there are proper reviews of the whole SoC floating around out there.

I've done a bit of minecraft benchmarking on my Oracle instance. It generates the same number of chunks per second as my 3600x CPU - although minecraft is always a weird benchmark in that benefits from low memory latency and large caches as it is ineffective at using caches well but is memory bound.

Its even more lopsided when modded to the teeth.

Re: Hetzner Introduces ARM64 Cloud Servers

#140

We are decommissioning all our dedicated servers at Hetzner. This is not because we didn't like that service but because we are concentrating our efforts in AWS. It's been a wonderful ride. It's cheap and reliable. I wish our team was big enough to afford having to deal with dedicated hardware.

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