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Effective Spaced Repetition

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Re: Effective Spaced Repetition

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”Individual cards should be extremely brief, but your deck as a whole can be as repetitive as you want.” Huh! I struggled with using Anki for pretty much this exact reason, always spent too much mental energy figuring out the “correct” number of cards for a given topic. But the author makes a good point here, if there’s too many cards on a certain topic you’ll just hit “I remember” on the repetitive cards and the alg…

The only disadvantage I may see to this is that it skews your counter of daily cards. So you may feel discouraged if you see that you have a large amount of cards to review and that it will probably take you a lot of time to go through them all, while in fact, you will only spend a few seconds on those that you already remember. Unfortunately, there are times when I cannot for the life of me do my flashcards because…

I have configured a review session to be at most 15 flashcards or 5 minutes, whichever is shorter. It usually takes 2–3 minutes. Often I do multiple review sessions back to back. But I'm only ever committing to 15 cards at a time, regardless of the size of the backlog – that is very manageable.

Re: Effective Spaced Repetition

#132
post #77

A question to the experienced Anki users: The recommendation is to learn before you memorize. Many times I hack the infos (from an article) right into Anki. Now if it‘d want to review the infos in the Anki app, that totally destroys my stats. What are some of you doing? Extract the info into some other tool, review the infos there and then quiz yourself in Aki?

I have a similar issue. I create cards for the subject I need to study, then I study it all at once in a custom study session. I then go to the exams but how do I continue afterwards? Like what are the best settings to retain all the information after that? And how do I make sure that I'm not destroying those settings when I need to study before an exam again?

But the point of SRS is that it prompts you to review the cards when there's a high chance of memory decay.

Say you learned your cards and did a custom study to review them before your exam. Now you "know" these cards to some extent. Anki knows how many times you reviewed them and if you provided an accurate assessment of how well you retained these cards, Anki will know when to show 'em next, so you don't forget. You don't have to do anything.

Re: Effective Spaced Repetition

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Other software which have nailed spaced repetition (and a much better UI than Anki): - https://www.duolingo.com/ (language learninig) - https://www.chessable.com/ (chess) - https://readwise.io/ (book highlights) - https://examarly.com/ (test prep) - https://app.bestudious.io/login (certifications - CFA) - https://magoosh.com/ (vocabulary)

At Math Academy (https://mathacademy.com), we implement spaced repetition in combination with a knowledge graph consisting of several thousand math topics and tens of thousands of connections (and growing). We're working on a post that explains how this all works technically.

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Re: Effective Spaced Repetition

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Combine spaced repetition with major mnemonic system and method of Loki and you have a superpower.

Can you mention some major mnemonic systems? I've read about this stuff before and I remember a few minor ones for numbers, or for chaining ideas, but that's about it.

Re: Effective Spaced Repetition

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No. As a med student who uses Anki for basically everything, this is plain wrong. The time spent on making cards is better spent on studying. Premade cards (Anking in this case) have relevant pages from multiple sources, relevant histology/gross photos and additional notes for every card, and all cards are tagged with their corresponding chapters in multiple textbooks. If I spent time trying to do something similar (…

My wife gave up trying to use Anki in med school because it worked against her. There's no way to go through a whole deck in one sitting. Anki might be useful for a few light cards every day but it's useless for the long study sessions demanded by med school.

You can adjust the number of cards that get pulled into a given review session. You can also do multiple review sessions. I'm confused as to the problem here.

I will admit, reasoning through options is very much harder when you're under a lot of stress.

Re: Effective Spaced Repetition

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A piece of advice that is repeated here and elsewhere is to create atomic cards. I’ve long wondered whether that is good advice or not, or whether it depends on the subject domain.

The better I know a subject, the less atomic it feels. I don’t think and talk about the topic in discrete facts but in interconnected knowledge. This is why the complete independence between cards seems more like a weakness than a strength. The argument from the spaced repetition community is that purposeful linkages between cards builds in a contextual dependency. And that dependency makes the resulting memory contingent. But in some knowledge domains that seems more of a feature than a bug.

Re: Effective Spaced Repetition

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Other software which have nailed spaced repetition (and a much better UI than Anki): - https://www.duolingo.com/ (language learninig) - https://www.chessable.com/ (chess) - https://readwise.io/ (book highlights) - https://examarly.com/ (test prep) - https://app.bestudious.io/login (certifications - CFA) - https://magoosh.com/ (vocabulary)

I would not call Duolingo a language learning application. It behaves more like language mimicry application. You learn a very particular subset of the language that I'd call "Duolingo ". This is my conclusion after using it for two non-English languages.

You seriously need a basic beginner book if starting from fresh, and use Duolingo just as a repetition tool when you can during the day

Re: Effective Spaced Repetition

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I need to memorize the shapes of seven modes on the guitar. (A mode is kind of like a scale.) The image here shows them starting from F: https://www.anyonecanplayguitar.co.uk/three-note-per-string-... Is this a good fit for this technique? I'm not sure how to decompose it further than "G Dorian." I'm also not sure if the time would be better spent just playing them more.

If a subject took psilocybin in between focused repetitions, do you think they would be effectively spaced?

Here you have F, G, A, B(flat), C , D, & E. The full alphabet in the key of F.

Each pattern actually goes up the entire neck but for teaching it looks like this site emphasizes the notes that are more common between these different modes.

You could look at it like a guideline to help you hit the right notes during improvisation or composition.

Alternatively it could be just as useful to avoid hitting the wrong notes.

Instead of having targets for the fingers, you could just as logically have patterns of notes to avoid.

Either way when you go up the entire neck you're covering a lot more ground.

One objective might be to develop the ear simultaneously with the conventional modes, so that eventually just hearing the key the tune is played in will instinctlively lead your hand to a favorable position to begin with, making it easier to go from there into whatever modes might be appropriate.

Re: Effective Spaced Repetition

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post #137

Other software which have nailed spaced repetition (and a much better UI than Anki): - https://www.duolingo.com/ (language learninig) - https://www.chessable.com/ (chess) - https://readwise.io/ (book highlights) - https://examarly.com/ (test prep) - https://app.bestudious.io/login (certifications - CFA) - https://magoosh.com/ (vocabulary)

I would not call Duolingo a language learning application. It behaves more like language mimicry application. You learn a very particular subset of the language that I'd call "Duolingo ". This is my conclusion after using it for two non-English languages. You seriously need a basic beginner book if starting from fresh, and use Duolingo just as a repetition tool when you can during the day

Consensus among Serious language learners (i.e aiming for a B2+ level) is that duolingo is marginally useful for learning some vocabulary. A thorough course or textbook are essential

Re: Effective Spaced Repetition

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post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would not call Duolingo a language learning application. It behaves more like language mimicry application. You learn a very particular subset of the language that I'd call "Duolingo ". This is my conclusion after using it for two non-English languages. You seriously need a basic beginner book if starting from fresh, and use Duolingo just as a repetition tool when you can during the day

Consensus among Serious language learners (i.e aiming for a B2+ level) is that duolingo is marginally useful for learning some vocabulary. A thorough course or textbook are essential

I agree.
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