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I'd guess that a far bigger factor is that the US has a much higher percentage of houses the use electricity for room heating. I believe that it is similar for water heating. In the US there is also a high percentage of houses that use electricity for the stoves and oven and for clothes drying. A brief didn't turn up how much electricity is used for those things in the UK, but if it is like much of the rest of Europe…

>In the US around 26% of houses use electricity as their only energy source, compared to around 9% for the UK. Something that was interesting to me when I moved from California to central Oregon was that nearly everything was powered by electricity. I didn't even know anybody with a gas stove in Oregon.

I do not know anyone in Portland metro without a gas line to their house. Furnaces, stoves, and water heaters until recently use gas.

I am guessing central Oregon may have been too rural for it to make sense to install gas utilities everywhere?

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One little thing that stuck out: The USA leads the way in terms of household electric usage in the world – an average US household consumes approximately 975 kilowatt-hours of electricity each month, three times more than for example the United Kingdom. Which got me wondering how big US domiciles are versus those in the UK. Turns out: lot of big-ass houses here in the US. https://shrinkthatfootprint.com/how-big-is-a-…

I am using 1300 kWh per __year__ in Germany in my three room apartment, with an electric oven and cooker. That is a lot of electricity for a single home, even with electric heating.

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To think there were nuclear reactors already built and running perfectly fine in Germany. That were closed down presumably for ecological reasons. Burning coal and natural gas instead.

Not just any coal, but lignite, the nastiest, dirtiest kind of coal. Definitely greener than nuclear. /s

Also the only fossil fuel Germany has in abundance in its own territory.

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Nope, electric heating uses much more power than air conditioning.

I guess that is true, I just imagined so few domiciles actually use electric heating, or use electric heating in places that do not get really cold, that it is not a significant factor in national statistics of electricity usage. Seems like 40% of US households use electric heating though, which is way more than I expected. https://www.census.gov/acs/www/about/why-we-ask-each-questio... Edit: fixed link

Bad link. But I'd like to see it by state. In Florida electric heat may exist but never be used, while Massachusetts needs heat and uses oil or gas.

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The actual data comes from here: https://www.globalpetrolprices.com/electricity_prices/ It bundles distribution and electricity prices. In NZ the wholesale price is the same accross the country (marginal pricing), but different distribution companies charge different rates.

Weird that the source includes NZ but the article didn’t.

Maps Without NZ is spreading.

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I guess that is true, I just imagined so few domiciles actually use electric heating, or use electric heating in places that do not get really cold, that it is not a significant factor in national statistics of electricity usage. Seems like 40% of US households use electric heating though, which is way more than I expected. https://www.census.gov/acs/www/about/why-we-ask-each-questio... Edit: fixed link

Bad link. But I'd like to see it by state. In Florida electric heat may exist but never be used, while Massachusetts needs heat and uses oil or gas.

Sorry, fixed

https://www.census.gov/acs/www/about/why-we-ask-each-questio...

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Interesting site, with a great treasure trove of information. If you are looking for energy intensive activities, including manufacturing and data-centers, this looks like a great place to start.

One thing stood out for me, for the top 2 economies in the world, US and China. The energy price for US businesses = 0.150 $/kWh. The energy price for Chinese businesses = 0.093 $/kWh. I was kind of expecting 20-30% discount on energy in China. Factually, it looks like a 30+% discount. This, together with regulatory and labor laws, will make it impossible for the US to compete in manufacturing, and possibly in long-term large-scale data-center sectors.

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Poland's coal use is also a huge problem. However, they don't receive as much comment because Germany is richer, so more able to afford cleaner energy sources, and Poland wasn't ignorant and short-sighted about using Russian natural gas.

Poland is actually going to build nuclear power plants soon. In ten years, Poland‘s electricity mix will be much cleaner than Germany‘s.

  EXPORTS
  In 2021, Poland exported $926M in Electricity. The main destination of Electricity exports from Poland are: Lithuania ($430M), Slovakia ($388M), Czechia ($56.5M), Germany ($28.8M), and Sweden ($23M).

  IMPORTS
  In 2021, Poland imported $1.45B in Electricity. Poland imports Electricity primarily from: Germany ($911M), Sweden ($299M), Lithuania ($131M), Ukraine ($63.4M), and Czechia ($43.5M).

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Not just any coal, but lignite, the nastiest, dirtiest kind of coal. Definitely greener than nuclear. /s

And yet Germany has fewer CO2 emissions per kWh of electricity produced than the USA.

Yeah but you're breathing coal dust
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