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Generate a Cover Letter by Pasting the Job Post and Your Resume

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So you get a kick out of making sure you're not hiring people who really need the work. Nice work, bro.

It’s not a charity. I’m kind of baffled by people who externalize employment like this.

Didn't say it was. Do you think I'm putting words in your mouth? Or that perhaps I missed some subtle tone?

What's there for you to be baffled about?

Re: Generate a Cover Letter by Pasting the Job Post and Your Resume

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What are the tells of a thoughtful cover letter? Maybe people can incorporate those when asking AI to generate their letter for them.

Hah. “Please make the letter you generate thoughtful. Make up an anecdote that illustrates why I’m uniquely interested in this work.” Apologies. You deserve a thoughtful answer but I’ve had a day. Maybe others can add in, but the most common one for me is when they bind their qualifications to the role by way of one or two (very) short anecdotes or personal experiences. It also gives me something to ask about that yo…

Don't you think I'd be pretty easy to fool you with ChatGPT?

Re: Generate a Cover Letter by Pasting the Job Post and Your Resume

#133

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It’s not a charity. I’m kind of baffled by people who externalize employment like this.

Didn't say it was. Do you think I'm putting words in your mouth? Or that perhaps I missed some subtle tone? What's there for you to be baffled about?

He's talking about what enables him to effectively screen for his role. Your response and a few others are trying to guilt him for screening.

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I was hoping my last targeted cover letter would at least get me a real rejection letter instead of a form letter, but no such luck.

I think that's a fair ask. The hiring manager or recruiter should symmetrically put in as much effort as you did to tour application. That said, a lot of companies get really high volumes of applicants, and can't always do that.

I agree with the first statement, but I can't really say the second statement is reasonable. It is the same on the opposite side. Right now, I may have to apply to 100 jobs to get 10 interviews for one to give me an offer. Just as much as companies have to deal with many applicants, most applicants also have to apply to many places. Both have one-to-many relationships.

Re: Generate a Cover Letter by Pasting the Job Post and Your Resume

#135

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So you get a kick out of making sure you're not hiring people who really need the work. Nice work, bro.

It’s not a charity. I’m kind of baffled by people who externalize employment like this.

It is not charity, it is an economic transaction.

What I don't get is what benefit does a company get by people pretending that they are applying for anything other than the (total) salary?

Re: Generate a Cover Letter by Pasting the Job Post and Your Resume

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This is so funny, I was just doing this with ChatGPT to apply for jobs. If you make me fill out a bullshit form where I fake being passionate about your company, I’m going to get a chatbot to write it for me. End of story. I just need a job, why do you care if I’m passionate about building CRUD apps for you?

> I just need a job, why do you care if I’m passionate about building CRUD apps for you? Because people that lack passion for their work cut corners to avoid doing it.

I think it is the opposite, actually.

A professional gets shit done. With my higher experience, I have a better understanding of what provides business value and don't work on it more than that, because it is not valuable.

I am passionated about technology, programming and system design. I have about zero passion for writing documentation and good pull requests - but I do it anyway, and I like to think I do it well.

If I only did the parts of my job I had passion for, I wouldn't be a very good employee. If people only worked for companies they were passioned about most companies would have so much more trouble hiring (who is passionate about working for Wells Fargo? Doing SCADA work for a flour factory?).

Re: Generate a Cover Letter by Pasting the Job Post and Your Resume

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Has anyone hiring for a company with more than 10 employees in the 21st century even read a cover letter? And if they have, are they stupid enough to actually believe it? For most people looking for work, rent's due next month, and they are machine-gunning applications, they aren't actually deeply passionate about getting a job at .

I do read cover letters, but more especially cover emails.

Do you write personalized rejection mails to people who wrote cover letters for you?

If not, why not?

Re: Generate a Cover Letter by Pasting the Job Post and Your Resume

#138

So AI resumes and AI cover letters are now being auto-submitted to AI generated automated job postings then parsed by hiring AI. What an absolute circus this is becoming.

Actually, this is an excellent development! The job posting, resume + cover letter dance has been an integral part of bullshit work for decades. Why not offload it all to a machine? The results will be roughly the same since it's essentially an overly complicated encoding mechanism for the initial stages of formalized employment negotiations.

Re: Generate a Cover Letter by Pasting the Job Post and Your Resume

#139

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It’s not a charity. I’m kind of baffled by people who externalize employment like this.

It is not charity, it is an economic transaction. What I don't get is what benefit does a company get by people pretending that they are applying for anything other than the (total) salary?

Although salary plays a big part in the transaction, it is not everything.

Many years ago I worked as a hiring manager for a PR firm in India, the cover letter is a very good way to sift out the dedicated candidates from the unfocused.

It also provides us with a unique insight into their psyche, using a combination of NLP and targeted interview questions regarding topics mentioned in the cover letter, we were able to discern potential points of leverage when it comes to salary negotiation. For example, an ideologically driven unior associate will accept a lower yearly salary as long as he's personal ego requirements are fulfilled, thus minimising operational expenditure for the business.

Re: Generate a Cover Letter by Pasting the Job Post and Your Resume

#140

So AI resumes and AI cover letters are now being auto-submitted to AI generated automated job postings then parsed by hiring AI. What an absolute circus this is becoming.

Actually, this is an excellent development! The job posting, resume + cover letter dance has been an integral part of bullshit work for decades. Why not offload it all to a machine? The results will be roughly the same since it's essentially an overly complicated encoding mechanism for the initial stages of formalized employment negotiations.

It certainly will make the hiring part of the work a little more difficult.

Previously this step could be used as a filter, but now all the letters are going to be good which means the hiring part has just become a little more difficult.

Is this a good thing? I guess?

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