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OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

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Re: OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

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Post by chrisbolt »

dimgl wrote: post #101
gambiting wrote: post #28

Maybe because Google is actual trash and it went from being the best search engine to being an SEO-infested desert of a search, where your query is interpreted however they want not how you want. Latest example from today - search for "micropython html parser" - 100% of results are about normal python not micropython, with the first 4 results being for generic paid programming courses. It's completely useless as a se…

I looked up "Xfinity chat with agent" on Google and was shown three different scam numbers of companies posing as Comcast...

For me, the top four results are on xfinity.com and the fifth is your comment, "11 minutes ago".

Re: OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

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Post by lordnacho »

csdvrx wrote: post #36
jmartrican wrote: post #25

I went right back to Google. It just had better results.

Is It Possible to Learn This Power? Because google is 99% spam for me

uBlock plus some filters that remove the ads. Someone also made one that filters out the stackoverflow copy sites.

Re: OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

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Post by AviationAtom »

HeavyFeather wrote: post #69
AviationAtom wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love that Bing Chat actually links to references. It felt like something was missing from ChatGPT without it.

Just because it does, it doesn’t mean they’re being interpreted correctly, so watch out for https://xkcd.com/906/

In the context of LLMs they aren't really sources, just additional reference material. I'd trust what Bing Chat tells me far before I'd trust Google's new Bard AI. It legit started making up non-existent commands for me to use.

Re: OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

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Post by ativzzz »

stevepike wrote: post #129
gambiting wrote: post #28

Maybe because Google is actual trash and it went from being the best search engine to being an SEO-infested desert of a search, where your query is interpreted however they want not how you want. Latest example from today - search for "micropython html parser" - 100% of results are about normal python not micropython, with the first 4 results being for generic paid programming courses. It's completely useless as a se…

I don't know why people are picking on your specific search. Try turning off your ad blocker and searching for "zoom download".

Sure, I get the zoom download center, a help article for zoom to download, and some mobile app download links. It's all personal

Re: OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

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Post by kvathupo »

tines wrote: post #40
gambiting wrote: post #28

Maybe because Google is actual trash and it went from being the best search engine to being an SEO-infested desert of a search, where your query is interpreted however they want not how you want. Latest example from today - search for "micropython html parser" - 100% of results are about normal python not micropython, with the first 4 results being for generic paid programming courses. It's completely useless as a se…

I just performed that search in Google and the top two results are links to PyPI and Snyk packages for micropython-html.parser. The third result is a link to python.org documentation for html.parser (not micropython). Bing returns the result for PyPI and the one for the non-micropython python.org result. I don't see a big difference here (except maybe me learning about Snyk through google and not Bing?).

This is a good argument for LLM search: have search be conversational, and let you say "hey, I actually meant this!". Then you could have different chat environments, each tailored to micropython results, CPython results, IronPython results, etc.

Of course, how can you scale this for every user?

Re: OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

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Post by AviationAtom »

_hypx wrote: post #126
AviationAtom wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For those old enough to remember, it's exactly the reason why Google took Yahoo's place back when.

But what can replace Google? Is there another search engine with stunningly relevant results like the early days of Google?

Bing is on it's way in that direction. Microsoft needed something big to make Bing relevant again. This could potentially be it.

Will they eat all of Google's lunch? Probably not, but if they can begin to chip away at the insane share (93%+) of the marketplace that Google controls, then it can only be for the betterment of the Internet.

Re: OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

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Post by tifadg1 »

ThePhysicist wrote: post #89

This might be a trope here, but recently I noticed that the quality of search results has degraded quite a bit for me. When I e.g. search for Golang-related content (often I want just the official docs of a module like net/http) I get all these developer-focused, SEO-optimized blogs that are kind of helpful but often not, and I have to scroll all the way down to get the official docs. I really wonder if that has to d…

I now only google when I need to sometimes verify that what chatgpt is suggesting isn't BS and I'm immediately reminded that google is barely better between SEO content farms, SEO SO scrappers, legacy information from 10 years ago. And that's with ads blocked.

Between chatgpt+ for general guidelines and copilot for specific implementation details, programming feels very fun and alive. And I'm very skeptical to subscribing, but chatgpt provides so much mental relief getting some answers immediately that I'm ecstatic being able to use/pay for it.

Re: OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

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Post by whatshisface »

ThePhysicist wrote: post #89

This might be a trope here, but recently I noticed that the quality of search results has degraded quite a bit for me. When I e.g. search for Golang-related content (often I want just the official docs of a module like net/http) I get all these developer-focused, SEO-optimized blogs that are kind of helpful but often not, and I have to scroll all the way down to get the official docs. I really wonder if that has to d…

I guess the problem is that Google doesn't have a metric for "clicked, wasted ten minutes, and was annoyed."
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