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Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by agloe_dreams »

ncallaway wrote: post #110
agloe_dreams wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I'm glad they are actually making a product for their actual niche... Personally, looking at the 16...it's just a 'You were supposed to be the chosen one.' gif. Damn near everything is proprietary, even if they were to open source it, they have basically created their own new standards for everything from the GPU to the new RGB modules that seem like insane distractions. Also those trackpad spacers are a soluti…

How many things have they created standards for that already have open standards in common use in the laptop space? If we’re going from 2 open standards to 3 that seems unnecessary. If we’re going from 0 open standards to 1 that seems like a huge step forward.

MXM is an 'open-ish' standard that others build for. My real weird view is that they have really went a different direction and their GPU upgrade has a whole rear deck you install and all that rather than building it into the product. That deck will only ever work with the Framework 16.

Like, this isn't a standard at all, it's just open for Framework to gain from. It reminds me of Google's Project Ara but for the wrong reasons.

https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/23/23652967/framework-laptop...

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

mixmastamyk wrote: post #97
kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would be nice if we could get non-multiplexed edit keys in the unused space. That is the biggest failing of modern laptops. Massive horizontal real estate and they're packing keys in like it's 1995.

Previous framework was 3:2, not 16:9 so there isn't a ridiculous amount of width. But yes, a vertical column of dedicated keys is a decent compromise that doesn't shift the keyboard over much. I had that on an older luggable.

You don't have to shift the keyboard over at all. That can stay centered and there's room for a 2x3 block of edit keys plus an inverted-T with full height up and down arrows. All it takes is willingness to be a leader instead of a follower copying one company's misguided minimalism-at-all-costs.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by starkparker »

bigredhdl wrote: post #54
chromakode wrote: post #22

I love how this launch included new reuse paths for old components, including a new mainboard case [1] and battery / screen case designs. If Framework maintains mechanical compatibility between generations, things are going to get really interesting. [1] https://frame.work/products/cooler-master-mainboard-case

Came here to say the same thing. Having my old laptop board be a NUC for another screen somewhere seems like a good idea.

Already preordered the 13" AMD board knowing that my old mainboard is going straight into my arcade cabinet as soon as it's out of the laptop.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by brucethemoose2 »

Tade0 wrote: post #126
brucethemoose2 wrote: post #17

Oh there we go, modular GPU add in boards. Heyoooo! And they support other stuff! I wish the framework site was up, as I want to see what this specification looks like. If you look inside an Asus Zephyrus or whatever, the cooling setup needed to support such a thing in a thin laptop is mad . The 13", for instance, has a pancake sized 2D headspreader + liquid metal TIM, which very much goes against repairability. The…

I repasted and changed the fans in my Zephyrus (turns out mattress pumps and fans don't mix) and fortunately the whole heatsink assembly comes off in more or less one go. It is bulky though. Moreover, this bulk is not enough to keep the keyboard from getting really hot under load.

The newer ones are much trickier because of the liquid metal TIM. You want to avoid lifting it off the CPU/GPU if you can.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by slaw »

yandrypozo wrote: post #116
samtheDamned wrote: post #2

Every time Framework is brought up, there's a chorus of people saying they won't buy until they release an AMD edition, and as one of them this is great to see. Edit: Also the input deck and the ability to attach an egpu as well as upgrade to a newer egpu in the future are huge. This is a fantastic leap forward for Framework.

I'm very curious why people prefer AMD chips (I've never used one), would you share why do you and/or people you know like AMD so much?

I have a Dell laptop with Intel i9-12900H. It is very noisy and hot.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by miloignis »

samtheDamned wrote: post #2

Every time Framework is brought up, there's a chorus of people saying they won't buy until they release an AMD edition, and as one of them this is great to see. Edit: Also the input deck and the ability to attach an egpu as well as upgrade to a newer egpu in the future are huge. This is a fantastic leap forward for Framework.

I'm one! Just preordered the Ryzen 7, and very excited. Have held and messed with my friend's current Intel 13, and I was a big fan.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by tuukkah »

schmorptron wrote: post #8

It's going to be exciting to see which GPU manufacturer they went with. Intel salvaging arc? This eGPU that can be slotted in is exactly the thing I'd been hoping they would do if they added GPUs and the AMD option is incredible. Gonna have to put my money where my mouth is once it's time for a new laptop now... I also think it's important to not underestimate the flexibility and marketing aspects of the eGPU design…

> which GPU manufacturer they went with

The beauty of this is they don't have to choose. The GPU can be anything that communicates over Thunderbolt and fits in the physical module specs.

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