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Nothing shady about fleecing your customers ;) The fact they're in Panama suggests some kind of money laundering scheme to me at the very least.
Every VPN worth its salt is located in a similar country, as it's critical for a VPN to operate out of a jurisdiction that does not require log retention for a certain period of time nor cooperates with Five Eyes law enforcement.
The fact that NordVPN needs its own library should already be seen as a red flag. If you need a VPN at all (which you usually don't) then you should use something that works with widely used and tested protocols. That was historically ipsec or openvpn (both not ideal), these days wireguard is probably a better choice. That's all apart from the fact that most reasons advertised by companies like NordVPN why you need a…
NordVPN are far too aggressive about youtube marketing to not be sketchy imo. Open source client doesn't really help because whatever sketchy shit they're up to is probably mostly on the server side anyway. I wonder what their total youtube sponsor spot expenditure has been. It must be a ridiculous amount of money.
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That is an exceptionally broad statement. I think it's probable that Netflix doesn't work with large-scale VPN providers because it's broadly easy to identify the traffic source. However, using a wireguard tunnel from my ipad back to my house, netflix works fine.
He obviously didn't mean to include people who are just tunneling back to their residential IP.
It’s not obvious at all. Netflix could be doing something as simple as checking the IPs or could be actually checking the use of VPN at a system level. Both are equally valid readings of the GP comment.
Since there is so much criticism here of NordVPN (in general, not for open-sourcing), what are the VPNs that people like?
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They have a ridiculously high ad spend, ridiculously high prices, located in a tax haven, their advertising routinely makes false, exaggerated claims, they've been exposed as having logs even though they claim otherwise, and may or may not be running a botnet. Everything about this company screams money laundering scheme to me. EDIT: I've realised my claims about logging were overblown. But I'm not so insecure as to…
To my knowledge, nordvpn is independently audited on its no log claims. Can you provide a source for what you said regarding logs?
I'll admit I misread another comment on this post as them definitely being exposed for logging though, my mistake. I've been unable to corroborate it. I did find that the company openly admits it cooperates with law enforcement and does log on behalf of law enforcement.
Additionally there are so many other red flags I'm not inclined to believe anything they say.
Since there is so much criticism here of NordVPN (in general, not for open-sourcing), what are the VPNs that people like?
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No that is why they are nitpicking about recently open sourced code that is "undocumented"
I don't see it as a nitpick. The review can be valuable to people working on the code and users wondering how competent the Nord team is.
Yeah this review will really give potential Nord users something to really think about before they purchase!
Reminder that it looks like NordVPN does shady stuff: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29285988 Allegedly, they are using their customers as botnets to resell traffic from residential IPs, mostly for scraping, through their other business "Oxylabs".
They still offer OpenVPN connections ...
Most routers and other clients that aren’t updated very frequently still only support OVPN.
They also offer WG connections if OVPN bothers you so much.
The fact that NordVPN needs its own library should already be seen as a red flag. If you need a VPN at all (which you usually don't) then you should use something that works with widely used and tested protocols. That was historically ipsec or openvpn (both not ideal), these days wireguard is probably a better choice. That's all apart from the fact that most reasons advertised by companies like NordVPN why you need a…
But you don't have to use their client. Most VPN providers (looks like Nord included) allow you to connect with any client that's compatible with one of their protocols. I use a different VPN provider with the official WireGuard client, even though they have their own company-made client.