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Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes

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For those curious about what's going on (the post was removed) they merged with TWS: https://your.online/press-release/

We're getting bitten by this in the Netherlands as well. Two domain registrars, PCExtreme and Neostrada, merged with Versio, and Versio is now owned by TWS. My company has domains registered with Versio (and PCExtreme and Neostrada), but the control panel was showing multiple domains wrongly flagged as 'processing', and actually getting through to customer service takes the better part of day by now. I'm not looking…

Any suggestion of a good serious independent European registrar?

Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes

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That comes with its own set of issues when google decides to block your account for reasons only known to their algorithms and there are no humans to talk to. You end up locked out of your business email with no recourse.

What is an SME supposed to do? I need static web-hosting and an email server that will not get blocked by Google!

Having your own domain you control the MX record. If google locks you out, you can still move to another host for your email on the same day. You don't get your historical email (unless you backed it up with offlineimap or something like that) but at least you still have access and control over the address. Using @gmail.com for your business (or even personal email) is asking for trouble given how notorious google is at locking people out with no recourse and for mysterious reasons.

Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes

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No way, source? Kind of amazing if true.

https://aws.amazon.com/route53/domain-registration-agreement... > AWS currently provides Domain Name Registration Services through Gandi SAS , Mesh Digital Limited, Amazon Registrar, Inc., and other ICANN-accredited registrars

I expect they use the in-house one for the largest fraction of revenue and the rest for obscure ones they can't be bothered with.

Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes

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This is why I only use service A for domains. And service B for emails.

This is why I live in a society that enforces contracts through a court system.

In a functioning society you can’t sell someone a year worth of prepaid car washes and then decide they need to start paying you again 3 months into your contract.

Will be interesting to see if this touches the courts and, if so, how it plays out.

Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes

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From their statement it is not really clear if these changes affect new contracts (most probable) or are retroactively extended to existing contracts (not probable).

FTR: I have 20+ domains at Gandi and never used their mail service (I run my own e-mail Server for all those domains since many years) so this change does not affect me.

Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes

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Even last week they were saying nothing would change, that Gandi remained independent inside Your.online. That may be a new record.

>Even last week they were saying nothing would change

If you want to be dishonest but not explicitly lie, there are almost always ways to do it. For example, "I believe access to healthcare is a human right" to a normal person sounds like the person is saying that healthcare is a human right, but "access" can mean anything at all and in reality they are saying nothing.

I would not be surprised at all to find that similar inconspicuous weasel words were used.

Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes

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Good find. I've never heard of "Total Webhosting Solutions," anybody had experience with them? It's a bummer if Gandi goes downhill. I've never used them personally but I heard a lot of recommendations that they were a good registrar.

They were awesome. I have been with them over 15 years. But I fear it's time to move on. Still looking for an EU registrar that has modern 2FA (FIDO2) and is large enough to not be a target for takeover anytime soon.

There are some listed here: https://european-alternatives.eu/category/domain-name-regist...

I had just begun moving to Gandi, now I feel like I shouldn’t move anything more there :/

Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes

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Is migrating domains from Gandi to somewhere else easy/possible? I've had the same domain for years, I used to pay like $20 for five years, but then I forgot to renew, and because I let it expire for a few days, now they are charging me $100/year! Sour taste in my mouth about them even before this...

> I let it expire for a few days, now they are charging me $100/year!

It sounds like your domain name entered the redemption period. The high fee to restore a domain in the redemption period is mandated by the registry, not the registrar. So Gandi is not price gouging; they are required to collect that fee for restoring the domain.

Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes

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This is why I only use service A for domains. And service B for emails.

I use service A for domains, service B for DNS and service C for emails.

I use service A for domains, service B for DNS, service C for emails, and service D for WHOIS privacy protections.
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