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Google asks some employees to share desks amid office downsizing

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Google never went through bad PR before Sundar? Sunday became CEO on August 10, 2015. Google+ was launched in 2011. (And the "real name" policy was a PR disaster.) Google Reader was shut down in 2013. (You can hardly find a PR disaster that people in the tech world complain about more.) Google, Apple, Intel, Adobe had an anti-poaching agreement that finally got settled in 2015, but they were getting bad press before…

There were a lot of other good things going that masked these. The recent "PR botch ups" are creating more damage. The most famous e.g. is reacting to ChatGPT's hype and rushing to do a demo and then messing it up. It wasn't so much messing up the demo that caught they eye; it was how Google rushed/reacted to do it esp. when Google is considered to be at the forefront of AI. Again, optics. Besides Sundar hasn't come…

Actually, I don’t think it’s OK to just keep the lights on.

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I wonder how their recruiters will respond to those that want an office desk 5 days a week.

I remember visiting MS (Redmond), in the 1990s (It was at the "Longhorn" launch, if that helps date it). A friend of mine, worked in one of the nearby buildings, and took me to his office (He was doing documentation, or something for Encarta). I was struck by the narrow, dark, corridors, and the small, windowless, offices. My friend said that all MS engineers had a private office. I have since been told that the buil…

Microsoft started to transition to open layout company-wide sometime in the mid-10s. Depending on the org, some team at Microsoft still had private offices for their devs as late as 2017.

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I'm a Googler who very much cares about having my own desk. I hate WFH because I find it to be miserable, strongly prefer WFO, and this would make WFO miserable too. I'm not gonna be miserable for 8 hours every day for any amount of money.

How is WFH miserable and if it is, it’s your home, can’t you make it more comfortable?

Not OP but WFH to me is like living at my workplace. There is no boundary anymore between work and home. This where I work, this is where I live. This gone with WFH. I much rather prefer the physical separation of office and my private home.

Re: Google asks some employees to share desks amid office downsizing

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Google never went through bad PR before Sundar? Sunday became CEO on August 10, 2015. Google+ was launched in 2011. (And the "real name" policy was a PR disaster.) Google Reader was shut down in 2013. (You can hardly find a PR disaster that people in the tech world complain about more.) Google, Apple, Intel, Adobe had an anti-poaching agreement that finally got settled in 2015, but they were getting bad press before…

When did they drop “don’t be evil”?

2015

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Google is also one of those companies pushing for RTO though, from what I understood.

RTO is barely being pushed for. They said "you should come to the office these 3 days", but almost no one did and no manager seems to care.

Yet another sign of a CEO being completely out of touch.

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How is WFH miserable and if it is, it’s your home, can’t you make it more comfortable?

Not OP but WFH to me is like living at my workplace. There is no boundary anymore between work and home. This where I work, this is where I live. This gone with WFH. I much rather prefer the physical separation of office and my private home.

I have (had) a separate room in my house for my office. I go in in the morning and i close the door in the evening and don’t go back in there.

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When I was at Google (Kirkland), the offices were basically open-plan fishbowls. WFH was massively better. I once worked at a startup (pre-covid) that had an open-plan setup with a significant portion of people using standing desks. They provided one stool for 2 standing desks justifying it because "if you use a standing desk you should be standing most of the time". Pure cheapskate short-sightedness.

Well, that could be justified as maintaining the health of the employees by forcing one of two to stand up at any time.

Yeah. Right. We can add it to the long list of ways that tech bros assert their false sense of transferable expertise onto other people. The average startup…whatever person, has never actually asked an expert if standing desks do much if any good. The truth is way more nuanced.

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How is WFH miserable and if it is, it’s your home, can’t you make it more comfortable?

Not OP, but for me, it's the isolation. I wouldn't quite call it miserable unless I can't go out. I lasted only a few days into WFH for COVID before I went to live with my parents until I was forced back to the office. Just a few weeks ago I was snowed in for a week and I was about to crawl up the walls.

If I were single, I can see how that would make a difference. When I was forced to both work from home and not go to the gym and hang out with friends after work and I was single a decade ago during bad weather, that was miserable.

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So Y.T.'s mom has clacked up the stairs in her black pumps and gone into her office, actually a large room with computer workstations placed across it in a grid. Used to be divided up by partitions, but the EBGOC boys didn't like it, said what would happen if there had to be an evacuation? All those partitions would impede the free flow of unhinged panic. So no more partitions. Just workstations and chairs. Not even…

Snow Crash for those that don't know: https://a.co/d/fXWqXr7

Is that a good read? I liked Quicksilver.
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