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Re: Google stopping coding competitions

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Post by AndrewKemendo »

blindriver wrote: post #18

Thank you Sundar for getting rid of the frivolous, Silicon-Valley-esque things like coding competitions for kids, extricating all of the humanity and decency that made Google so inefficient with money, and for doubling down on your focus to turn Google into the next iteration of Cisco, Oracle and IBM. It's exactly what this world needs, so you are the perfect leader for this.

There are two possible outcomes for a publicly traded company that has figured out how to make a lot of money over a long period

1. Continue to accrete new revenue sources and pivot slightly forever until you eventually do a bit of everything, "diversifying" to the point where you become in effect a small nation

2. Stick to your plan and go out of business

These are the two possible outcomes as a public company

Re: Google stopping coding competitions

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Post by AndrewKemendo »

random314 wrote: post #66
blindriver wrote: post #18

Thank you Sundar for getting rid of the frivolous, Silicon-Valley-esque things like coding competitions for kids, extricating all of the humanity and decency that made Google so inefficient with money, and for doubling down on your focus to turn Google into the next iteration of Cisco, Oracle and IBM. It's exactly what this world needs, so you are the perfect leader for this.

They should merge IBM and Oracle and make Sundar the CEO. Apart from plastering ads in every nook and cranny and a stupid attempt to enter China, he has achieved nothing.

If Kurian promotes into the Global CEO role then it would immediately be complete

Re: Google stopping coding competitions

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Post by 8note »

bsaul wrote: post #126
lwneal wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sundar is the Steve Ballmer of Google. And that's fine! Ballmer was a competent if uninspiring CEO: Microsoft under his leadership missed many new opportunities, but still made lots of money. Most importantly, Ballmer's tenure is what made it possible for Satya Nadella to pivot Microsoft into what it is today. Realistically, Windows Phone was never going to beat Apple, Bing was not going to beat Google, Yammer was no…

Fully disagree with windows phone. It never reached enough maturity to be a true competitor to ios, but it absolutely could have won over android. the gui was truely innovative (with the « tiles » system), and the general feeling and smoothness was absolutely better than android. Microsoft missed a huge opportunity there. It never was a technical problem, MS knows how to make operating system. It was only a strategic…

The windows phone would never win over android.

Google is the web monopolist, and would never build apps like YouTube or Maps for a Windows phone product, since it would compete with Android, and not have the market share of the iphone.

Microsoft tried making their own YouTube app, which Google had taken down. Without access to the Google web products, a new phone ecosystem is going to be dead on arrival

Re: Google stopping coding competitions

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Post by flappyeagle »

giraffe_lady wrote: post #60
flappyeagle wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You quoted the word “indirectly” and then ignored it in your response.

No, I didn't. Whatever labor benefits accrued to these jobs and others are below the threshold of detection, so I don't consider them. The fact that they can use google now instead of not using google is certainly a change, but not one I consider relevant to the claim being made. hth :)

I've had many conversations with line cooks and servers at tech company kitchens. They were previously at restaurants and other food service industry gigs. The consistency and wages provided as a direct result of the benefits that Google gives its engineers made a huge difference to them.

It also gave them and their friends a real tangible alternative and bargaining chip when considering other jobs in the industry.

Re: Google stopping coding competitions

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Post by leereeves »

mrguyorama wrote: post #116
red-iron-pine wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cisco does -- if you pay for it. As for Oracle -- never dealing with them again if I can help it.

If you spend a million dollars on Oracle hardware they at least give you a human being who is authorized to fix things for you and diagnose your problems. Meanwhile in google land, you can literally be bring in millions of dollars worth of advertising revenue on your channel and asking for help from your dedicated Youtube contact/representative can get your entire channel retroactively demonitized https://www.youtube…

That creator seems to have found some help eventually, because their channel isn't age-restricted now and they're still posting videos on YT.

Re: Google stopping coding competitions

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Post by JohnFen »

lwneal wrote: post #115
blindriver wrote: post #18

Thank you Sundar for getting rid of the frivolous, Silicon-Valley-esque things like coding competitions for kids, extricating all of the humanity and decency that made Google so inefficient with money, and for doubling down on your focus to turn Google into the next iteration of Cisco, Oracle and IBM. It's exactly what this world needs, so you are the perfect leader for this.

Sundar is the Steve Ballmer of Google. And that's fine! Ballmer was a competent if uninspiring CEO: Microsoft under his leadership missed many new opportunities, but still made lots of money. Most importantly, Ballmer's tenure is what made it possible for Satya Nadella to pivot Microsoft into what it is today. Realistically, Windows Phone was never going to beat Apple, Bing was not going to beat Google, Yammer was no…

> to pivot Microsoft into what it is today

You mean marginally less obnoxious than it used to be?

Re: Google stopping coding competitions

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Post by JohnFen »

gkoberger wrote: post #9

We could lament them shutting it down, but why not thank them for doing this for 20 years? That's a LONG time to do anything, and despite what Google has become, it absolutely defined tech culture. Now it's obvious and commonplace, but an employee-centric company was revolutionary at the time. Things like this changed the lives of every single person here, either directly or indirectly. And best yet, it's a chance fo…

> an employee-centric company was revolutionary at the time

In the world of major software corporations, perhaps, but it's not like it was unknown elsewhere.

Re: Google stopping coding competitions

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Post by throwayyy479087 »

panic wrote: post #89
antondd wrote: post #85

It's been an interesting experience watching the primo crop of Silicon Valley sweethearts coming out of age and turning into this generation's IBMs, Oracles, and Ciscos. "He who slays the dragon shall become one".

The trick is to slay the dragon and then go home. If you stick around the gold and treasure for too long, that’s when it starts to get dangerous.

Atlassian nailed this. So has Vercel - do one thing perfectly.

Re: Google stopping coding competitions

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Post by tmtvl »

JohnFen wrote: post #137
lwneal wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sundar is the Steve Ballmer of Google. And that's fine! Ballmer was a competent if uninspiring CEO: Microsoft under his leadership missed many new opportunities, but still made lots of money. Most importantly, Ballmer's tenure is what made it possible for Satya Nadella to pivot Microsoft into what it is today. Realistically, Windows Phone was never going to beat Apple, Bing was not going to beat Google, Yammer was no…

> to pivot Microsoft into what it is today You mean marginally less obnoxious than it used to be?

Hello, I am Cortana, would you like to play Bejeweled?

Sorry, that isn't fair, but still I think they were less obnoxious back in the Windows 3.1 days.

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