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Google Workspace increasing prices from April 11, 2023
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Re: Google Workspace increasing prices from April 11, 2023
#132Earlier quoted context omitted.
The article that you linked shows how to "Allow Gmail to receive emails using POP3". That is to say, your mail should already be hosted elsewhere, and you'd be using the Gmail web app as a client for your email hosted on a different server.
Don't recall setup email server, but did purchase domain and setup DNS record that point to google mail server such as gmr-smtp-in.l.google.com. This might be a better link from Google https://support.google.com/domains/answer/3251241?hl=en&visi... .
Yes, Google Domains allowing for email forwarding sounds like a reasonable feature.
But when it comes to sending mail, the support pages say:
> While these directions let you send emails from a custom email alias at your domain, email recipients can still find your personal Gmail address if they inspect the email headers.
To me, this is no replacement for a mailbox on my own domain.
Re: Google Workspace increasing prices from April 11, 2023
#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
Moving from GSuite to M365 is a fairly popular move. Consulting companies build around this service.
I've seen more movement in the opposite direction, from M365 to Google. Mostly from companies who chose Microsoft before G Suite became popular for business. But maybe it's industry-dependent? In any case, you definitely need consultants because it's a pain no matter which direction you're going. Not a decision to take lightly, and you're not going to switch again for another 15 years.
I generally see Google -> M365 given the severe poor suitability of Google Workspace for enterprise businesses. And given those businesses often need to run Windows & Office regardless, sticking to Google makes even less sense.
Re: Google Workspace increasing prices from April 11, 2023
#134if they could only make their chat worthwhile this would be reasonable pricing. but as long as the decision is to pay for google workspace and slack, or else microsoft including teams, then microsoft seems like a better deal. i know teams gets a lot of hate, but it's at least usable.
What's missing from Google chat for you?
IMHO Google Chat is utter trash.
I don't think normal people will be using a PWA for chat on desktop computers and like it. The lack of an option for a normal clean native client on desktops is astounding to me. reference) https://support.google.com/chat/answer/9455386?hl=en
Re: Google Workspace increasing prices from April 11, 2023
#135Problem with Google Workspace is it's still (!) disconnected from Google and a lot of things don't work like they do with a traditional @gmail account. I run into this all the time and it's so frustrating.
Can you give an example.
Re: Google Workspace increasing prices from April 11, 2023
#136Even at twice the price, the value of the collective Google Workspaces suite for most people is a no brainer. I pay more per month to the calendar scheduling SaaS provider I use than I do to Google - who provide the calendar plus email, drive, docs, meet, etc. An important lesson here for founders is price anchoring. Google is in a tough place because the prices are anchored to historically low amounts - they're incr…
fyi gsuite now supports calendly-like scheduling for paid subscribers. Works great.
Calendly is the industry standard and works better than Google's which is weirdly implemented. Calendly as a company shouldn't exit really, Google should have had it wrapped up.
Value of easy scheduling of my time is worth the money of the extra vendor.
Re: Google Workspace increasing prices from April 11, 2023
#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
Google's office tools are much nicer than Microsoft's web ones. I'd say they even give the desktop versions a run for their money. And Meet is amazing. The only video conferencing system I've used that actually works reliably . I recently moved from a company using Zoom to one using Meet and the difference is insane. Makes a step difference to the quality of remote work. I presume they can do it because Google owns t…
As soon as you are starting to do some hardcore tables with lots of real business logic, peope around me tend to start liking Excel better.
Honestly I think if you reach the limits of Google Sheets you should not be using a spreadsheet.
Re: Google Workspace increasing prices from April 11, 2023
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Google's office tools are much nicer than Microsoft's web ones. I'd say they even give the desktop versions a run for their money. And Meet is amazing. The only video conferencing system I've used that actually works reliably . I recently moved from a company using Zoom to one using Meet and the difference is insane. Makes a step difference to the quality of remote work. I presume they can do it because Google owns t…
That's so interesting. We have Workspace at work but we have bought Zoom licenses for several us because we find Meet to be a much worse experience. We're now considering buying Zoom licenses for everyone at the company. I also find Google Sheets to be inferior to Excel, and we have Office licenses for myself and a few others that use spreadsheets. The only thing I think is good with Workspace is Gmail and Calendar.…
How did you find Meet to be worse? They're broadly similar in terms of UI and features (but Meet is definitely slicker). The main difference I've found is that Zoom cuts out way more than Meet. In fairness when it does cut out it has a nicer recovery mechanism - it replays what the person said at like 3x speed so you usually still get to hear what they said. Meet doesn't do that. But Meet is still way better because it very rarely cuts out in the first place, whereas Zoom is just the classic "sorry could you repeat that" video conferencing experience that everyone expects.
Re: Google Workspace increasing prices from April 11, 2023
#139Earlier quoted context omitted.
Zoho is great, if you only need email and basics. O365 and GSuite are still unmatched as a package though. Still think O365 is the best deal (for SMBs+), though it's a bit more.
Google's office tools are much nicer than Microsoft's web ones. I'd say they even give the desktop versions a run for their money. And Meet is amazing. The only video conferencing system I've used that actually works reliably . I recently moved from a company using Zoom to one using Meet and the difference is insane. Makes a step difference to the quality of remote work. I presume they can do it because Google owns t…
As someone who has worked under both in an enterprise environment, I am going to have to strongly disagree. Google's office tools are great if you aren't doing anything worth much of anything, as soon as you need to do something complex it turns into complete garbage. Every company I've worked for that used GSuite has had to also buy Office licenses because Google Docs and Sheets simply couldn't keep up. Google Docs also has a notorious reputation to screw up PDFs and DOCX file formatting.
I used to have Google Hangouts/Meet problems all the time, but it was fine, I've never cared for Zoom in general. Google's slide deck program is fine, but that's largely just because...who cares about slides? Most people aren't paying much attention to them, and they are just meeting filler.
I do prefer Gmail's interface to Outlook's though. Outlook tries to do too much. It's definitely better than it used to be, but there are some very crucial annoyances.
Re: Google Workspace increasing prices from April 11, 2023
#140It is time for me to evaluate my custom domain email service. I had the original/free Google workspace with custom email domain. In 2021, they charged me $6/month to keep that option afloat. To be honest, I think $6/month is a bit expensive for just email usage. I don't even use any other stuff coming with Suite. My question for this group: how do I get out of this without losing my email domain?
I've had the same free Google Apps account with forwarding for me and couple friends on my custom domain. We didn't use the mail boxes themselves, only forwarded email from the custom address to our free mailboxes. When they moved me to a paid plan, I researched multiple options to keep forwarding for multiple users and ended up getting a forwardemail.net service for 3 EUR/mo.