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BBC offices in India raided by tax officials amid Modi documentary fallout

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Re: BBC offices in India raided by tax officials amid Modi documentary fallout

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Post by capableweb »

adwww wrote: post #117
capableweb wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you're interested, you can get it (legally) in the UK here And if you happen to be belong to the rest of the ~99.13% world population, you can grab it here: Episode 1 - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:3C378A82CF67A1107523CA6C647077403A1EF74D&dn=India+The+Modi+Question+S01E01+1080p+HDTV+H264-DARKFLiX&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A…

Ha there is no way that 99% of the world population know what to do with those links / hashes / whatever they are.

That's true, but if they know/learn, they will be able to get it, one way or another, and they don't have to be in the UK :)

Re: BBC offices in India raided by tax officials amid Modi documentary fallout

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Post by iso1631 »

gadders wrote: post #102
s_dev wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

a) That line of thinking was eviscerated with Johnson and Kussenberg. b) The BBC is biased against Labor and SNP as a growing number of Britons are coming to realise. Clearly towing the line in favor of the Tory party. c) Plenty of nations have such advocacy groups.

>>b) The BBC is biased against Labor and SNP as a growing number of Britons are coming to realise. Clearly towing the line in favor of the Tory party. The BBC might not like the Labour Party (especially under Corbyn) but you can't deny it is 99% pro-left.

Waah Waah Waah the BBC is in bed with the tories

Waah Waah Waah the BBC is massively left wing

Same old same old.

BBC Employees tend to be younger than average (as there are very few over 65s at the BBC), tend to be more educated that average (most jobs will require a college level degree), tend to be more metropolitan (most staff are employed major cities)

Of course there are very few tory or leave voters amongst BBC Staff, probably between 1-in-4 and 1-in-3 if they are demographically representative [1]

The question is how those views come across in the reporting, and generally it seems fairly balanced to me (I usually vote Lib Dem fwiw)

[1] https://lordashcroftpolls.com/2019/12/how-britain-voted-and-...

Re: BBC offices in India raided by tax officials amid Modi documentary fallout

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Post by rozab »

The bizarre thing is how balanced the documentary actually is if you watch it. Many senior BJP officials are given plenty of time to defend their case. It focuses on provable events, things which were captured on video or public legal proceedings. If this has received such extreme backlash, I'd hate to see what happens to an actual opinionated news outlet

Re: BBC offices in India raided by tax officials amid Modi documentary fallout

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Post by mytailorisrich »

noduerme wrote: post #68
mytailorisrich wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are not diversifying from China because of China. They are because of deteriorating relations with the West that may put them at risk in case of, for instance, sanctions against China.

The West will have some deteriorating relations with India as well if India decides to start ethnic cleansing or stripping citizenship from 100 million Muslims. Consider how much business we do with Burma (approximately $0), even though the labor is quite cheap there. The BBC documentary is a warning shot. To be clear, this is not about the West taking sides in religious or ethnic issues; there are limits on what kin…

> there are limits on what kinds of violence people are willing to accept in the supply chain. China is incredibly hard to divorce from, but we're doing it.

What may or may not happening in China has nothing to do with it. The issue is geopolitical and the seemingly collision course between an increasingly powerful China and the West, especially the USA.

Edit: Likewise, with China the #1 threat the West will want to keep India on side. An example is Russia: India has been keeping its trade with Russia, and even increased it since the war in Ukraine started. The West has been very quiet on that.

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Post by hbt »

mrtksn wrote: post #103

Do India has the issue of "strict laws which are enforced selectively"? Because this reminds me of the traffic light in Grozny, Chechnya that is always red, the people from the regime just ignore it but if someone undesirable doesn't obey the red light(they have no choice, the light is always red) they will face the wrath of the strict traffic code of Chechnya: https://twitter.com/kamilkazani/status/15954560406775562…

selective law enforcement truly undermines the rule of law and legitimacy of institutions.

it turns the rule of law into rule by law: rulers and the ruled

it creates a class of people who are not subjected to the law while unleashing "order" on the powerless.

it's all hidden behind the curtain and turn a society into nothing more than "might makes right".

the vail is lifted whenever the inconsistencies are exposed which is why the system always aims to avoid transparency to maintain its power.

instead of rule law, society becomes nothing more than a hierarchy of power with a lot of bullshit decorum

unfortunately, it's pervasive across governments, especially less subtle authoritarian governments.

I wish nothing more than true rule of law.

Re: BBC offices in India raided by tax officials amid Modi documentary fallout

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Post by eunos »

vertis wrote: post #119
eunos wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nope. Even Modi himself was a target of sanction (prevented to visit US). After he became PM, all of sudden western world became his buddy again.

Between India and China you're looking at roughly a 1/4 of the world population. This makes it hard to use sanctions in ways that work better against smaller, less critical countries (like Iran, Myanmar). Even Russia, which doesn't hold quite the same level has been painful for Europe to sanction. It's also problematic having to fight battles on all fronts at once (and at home for the US, which isn't exactly at the h…

The third paragraph is most crucial. Having said that, as an Asian I'm super puzzled with Western countries tendency to moralizing and lecturing other countries internal matter.

Re: BBC offices in India raided by tax officials amid Modi documentary fallout

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Post by 2Gkashmiri »

You know kids, remember to keep your panic trigger/duress on your phone to get basic security.

Feels weird but my last comment was about about things including a few times like this one. A few years ago(2019), WhatsApp and VPNs were outlawed and was a crime so I had my VPN toolkit behind panic apps so when I was searched a few times,once walking down a busy street and second while driving a car (was made to get out), duress password saved me.

Re: BBC offices in India raided by tax officials amid Modi documentary fallout

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Post by sidibe »

skilled wrote: post #53
azalemeth wrote: post #13

Honestly, a lot of the documentary is a mixture of interviews and CCTV camera footage with a fairly even handed narrative on the top – it, by itself, isn't that shocking and certainly isn't presented in a particularly sensationalist way. I'm amazed by the reaction it has generated. Yes, there's some post-colonial history there and it doesn't look great that it's the BBC that has made it, as opposed to, say, a US or c…

I think a better question is, "Who is causing this reaction?". As in, who is the person who cannot bear this and is it because the ego is being bruised, or because it portrays India in a certain manner? Maybe some of these world leaders should consider therapy seeing as they can't handle their own problems by themselves and rather punish people around them for it.

I think the point might actually be to remind the public what Modi did (or didn't do), which was and is very popular in India as abhorrent as it is to the West. He can't openly brag about it but he can make sure everyone remembers before the next election by making it such a huge story. Bonus if it stirs up tension at the right time

Re: BBC offices in India raided by tax officials amid Modi documentary fallout

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Post by SanjayMehta »

iamshs wrote: post #33
azalemeth wrote: post #13

Honestly, a lot of the documentary is a mixture of interviews and CCTV camera footage with a fairly even handed narrative on the top – it, by itself, isn't that shocking and certainly isn't presented in a particularly sensationalist way. I'm amazed by the reaction it has generated. Yes, there's some post-colonial history there and it doesn't look great that it's the BBC that has made it, as opposed to, say, a US or c…

Imagine saying "post-colonial history" about a massacre done by Hindu revivalist movement started and benefited most from the colonial times. This "post-colonial" term has been weaponized by RSS-BJP and plays to their advantage now. Imagine if they can raid BBC offices, what happens to normal press corps.

Curious to know why you think the BBC should be exempt. The head of the BBC is in hot water for arranging a loan for the then British PM, Boris Johnson.
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