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Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

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Post by Zurrrrr »

yamtaddle wrote: post #102
Zurrrrr wrote: post #81

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Pretty much any phone would only take 5% over 6-8 hours if being inactive and just waiting for an alarm to go off.

Has Android gotten a lot better on that front? Last I developed for Android was after they had some big push to improve battery life and they were still a ton worse.

They've never been that bad in my experience. My guess is you were using something preinstalled with a ton of battery leeching crap.

Android itself doesn't do that, but much like buying a PC, it's hard to stop manufacturers loading it up with cruft.

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Post by alkonaut »

An iPhone 7 from not sure how long ago is more than fast enough for everything I throw at it. It gets OS upgrades and just works.

The best reason for having a faster chip is that if it gets the job done quicker then battery times will improve.

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Post by GeekyBear »

itake wrote: post #29
SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #10

I guess my question is - why do I care about geekbench? When was the last time someone who doesn't play games on their phone thought "man, I wish this was faster"? Because it's been years for me. The good news I hear is that Samsung is finally improving their battery life. That is a score that I actually care about.

I use an iPhone X (released 2017) and I wish it kept up with modern app performance requirements. The iPhone X doesn't support built-in OCR in images and apps take 1-2s longer to launch than my iPhone 13. Faster performance today means longer lasting tomorrow.

> Faster performance today means longer lasting tomorrow.

Every flagship iPhone since 2011 has gotten at least five years of OS updates, with some of the more recent models getting six years. Security updates extend past that.

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Post by yamtaddle »

izacus wrote: post #64
SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #10

I guess my question is - why do I care about geekbench? When was the last time someone who doesn't play games on their phone thought "man, I wish this was faster"? Because it's been years for me. The good news I hear is that Samsung is finally improving their battery life. That is a score that I actually care about.

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The only tech geeks I've known who gave a shit about on-paper specs and benchmarks for phones and were always buying anything faster than what they already had just because it's faster, have been Android fans.

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Post by lxgr »

pertymcpert wrote: post #116
diebeforei485 wrote: post #91

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Apps taking longer to launch is generally a RAM issue (unless you swipe up and force-close your apps each time). They drastically increased RAM recently: https://9to5mac.com/2022/12/31/iphone-ram-list/

Why?

If your most commonly used apps all fit into RAM, instead of initializing each app from scratch, the OS can just resume a suspended version from memory, which is much faster.

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Post by RulerOf »

Thaxll wrote: post #95
itake wrote: post #29

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I use an iPhone X (released 2017) and I wish it kept up with modern app performance requirements. The iPhone X doesn't support built-in OCR in images and apps take 1-2s longer to launch than my iPhone 13. Faster performance today means longer lasting tomorrow.

Makes you wonder how things get slow overtime, even phones from 5 years are very powerful, the app we use are simple so what gives?

Apps' functionality is often simple, but the apps themselves aren't. Back in the ancient days, iOS used to refuse to download apps above a certain size via cellular connection. It was 10 or 25 MB. I don't think I have a single third party app on my phone that's less than half that size.

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Post by lotsofpulp »

twobitshifter wrote: post #117
itake wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use an iPhone X (released 2017) and I wish it kept up with modern app performance requirements. The iPhone X doesn't support built-in OCR in images and apps take 1-2s longer to launch than my iPhone 13. Faster performance today means longer lasting tomorrow.

I only use an iPhone X so I don’t have a point of comparison but I’ve never felt it was slow to launch any apps, that’s why I haven’t felt the need to upgrade.

I only use an XS, and I cannot notice any slowdown either.

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Post by dzikimarian »

GeekyBear wrote: post #111
izacus wrote: post #64

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> Because it validates your decision to pay 1000$ for a phone The $399 iPhone SE from 2016 got six years of OS updates and just got another security update last month.

Edit: miss remembered test result.

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Post by Wingman4l7 »

konart wrote: post #25
gbil wrote: post #15

I like my slower android in which I can run my browser engine of choice, install any program I want in an easy way without time limitations and customize it in general as I want. Did I mention that it has a USB-C connector too? Disclaimer: I have an old iphone, used iphone 11 for weeks then went back to Android and I daily drive a M1 Pro Macbook

> in which I can run my browser engine of choice Soon on iOS too, to be fair. USB-C to follow most likely.

> USB-C to follow most likely

Only because Apple was forced to by an EU ruling. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they restrict sales of USB-C phones to EU-only, out of spite.

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Post by howinteresting »

InvaderFizz wrote: post #69
FredPret wrote: post #18

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It starts with one gadget. Then you buy the second Apple device, and find that they work fantastically together. Soon, you're in an all-Apple household!

Yup. Started with iPhones, then added iPads, then AppleTV since the screen mirroring was great and we use it for Plex. Then the next thing you know, the entire household is now MacBooks because shared clipboard is amazing, handoff is nice, being able to reply to text messages from the laptop is great. Took a decade for the transition to complete, but now it is done and the stickiness of it will be hard to overcome. N…

To be clear, on an Android phone you can use a desktop to write texts regardless of operating system. The Apple lock-in around writing text messages is a bad thing, not a good one (especially if you've realized that macOS is actually quite bad and can't use it without wanting to throw the laptop at the nearest wall).
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