Apparently someone missed the word "experimental" in the announcement.
Sure, but they made an ad bragging about it. It’s funny that they fucked that up.
Google's Bard shows incorrect information in its launch ad
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Re: Google's Bard shows incorrect information in its launch ad
#132I think there is a genuine concern that Google could overreact and launch a half-baked product in pure panic of being left behind or one upped by Microsoft. There is also a fear, I think, that the ChatGPT integration with Bing/Edge could not go all that smoothly. I think it could be game changing in many ways, but I can also see both of these falling apart. Amazon Alexa, Google Assistant and Siri were thought to be g…
>I do think there is unique break here though, because I feel that SEO has so thoroughly ruined search in many regards that this -could- be the right moment for this. the problem here is monetization, will search even be profitable if LLMs are used for most queries? It might become a Uber/Lyft or food delivery situation where these companies aren't really able to profitably deliver the service. I don't see many peopl…
Why would LLMs be less monetizable than search? People are still going to want to buy goods and services, and being the place they go to find out about those goods and services will be just as valuable as it is today. Perhaps even more so, since LLMs are able to answer questions that are difficult to formulate as search queries.
Re: Google's Bard shows incorrect information in its launch ad
#133This is a great illustration of the risks of LLMs. As a user, if I am asking this question to a search engine, I definitely do not expect to need to fact-check the results. That's the whole reason to use the search engine in the first place! We're about to enter a dark ages of crappy AI products that are touted as game changing, outcompeting each other to be the best chatbot that can compose haiku about how grapes tu…
As a user, if I am asking this question to a search engine, I definitely do not expect to need to fact-check the results.
And this stance seriously hasn't bitten you in your life or career to date?
Re: Google's Bard shows incorrect information in its launch ad
#134Earlier quoted context omitted.
Microsoft really missed out by not having the bing AI assistant be clippy-based
I guarantee they focus-tested it and found that most people who remember Clippy don't have fond memories of him (and/or remember the memes/jokes about him more than they remember the actual Clippy), but, more importantly, most people don't remember him at all and wondered why this weird paper clip guy was talking. he hasn't been in an Office product since, what, 23 years ago or something? (not counting cameos)
And probably a fair number asked "what is this weird bent line thing and what does it have to do with searching the internet?"
Re: Google's Bard shows incorrect information in its launch ad
#135I think there is a genuine concern that Google could overreact and launch a half-baked product in pure panic of being left behind or one upped by Microsoft. There is also a fear, I think, that the ChatGPT integration with Bing/Edge could not go all that smoothly. I think it could be game changing in many ways, but I can also see both of these falling apart. Amazon Alexa, Google Assistant and Siri were thought to be g…
> ... Google could overreact and launch a half-baked product
There's very low fraction of Google products that were sufficiently baked on release and just a few that weren't abandoned and killed after their half-baked release.
Re: Google's Bard shows incorrect information in its launch ad
#136Earlier quoted context omitted.
We're slow-motion singing on to a future with a fundamental shift to receiving information in a completely opaque manner. A few sources will control the information we get in a much more direct and extreme way than now, that conscious skepticism will no longer be able to defend. Whatever handwaved promises we get now will be gone ten years from now. If there wasn't such a gee-whiz coolness factor about conversational…
> We're slow-motion singing on to a future with a fundamental shift to receiving information in a completely opaque manner. There's nothing fundamentally new about this. The average person is blissfully unaware of the conversations being had between powerful individuals, PR experts, producers, and so on about how said person should be manipulated.
I pretty much have this ever-present aura of "citation needed" floating around in my head when I listen to people speak. Any kind of news/press thing, politician speaking (lol), or just anyone trying to claim/assert anything -- I can feel nothing but "citation needed" until they provide some kind of supporting evidence. I feel like people expend a shocking amount of energy proclaiming things they literally do not know with even the slightest degree of certainty - they saw it on some guy's sensational YouTube video and repeat it uncritically. The fatigue is real.
Re: Google's Bard shows incorrect information in its launch ad
#137I think there is a genuine concern that Google could overreact and launch a half-baked product in pure panic of being left behind or one upped by Microsoft. There is also a fear, I think, that the ChatGPT integration with Bing/Edge could not go all that smoothly. I think it could be game changing in many ways, but I can also see both of these falling apart. Amazon Alexa, Google Assistant and Siri were thought to be g…
> Amazon Alexa, Google Assistant and Siri These were always bullshit, other than maybe for turning your lights on, setting alarms, & checking the weather. On the other hand, I immediately found ChatGPT / Copilot useful as a professional tool I could use to make my job measurably easier.
A minimum what could the be is voice interface to my phone apps and they can't even do that at all or in any consistent manner.
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#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Amazon Alexa, Google Assistant and Siri were thought to be good at launch In my own experience, Alexa and Google's query pucks were improving for a short time, and then got considerably worse, losing features every month until they basically stopped understanding or responding to anything but the simplest requests. A couple months after released, they expanded android auto with the same abilities, so I could "ok go…
> In my own experience, Alexa and Google's query pucks were improving for a short time, and then got considerably worse, losing features every month until they basically stopped understanding or responding to anything but the simplest requests. Yes!! I thought it was just me and my Australian accent. And the commands are super limited. I wonder to what extent that's also because third-party companies aren't integrati…
There was a period of 2 months when googles third party integration wouldnt let you add new items to an existing registered account.
So dumb.
Re: Google's Bard shows incorrect information in its launch ad
#139I think there is a genuine concern that Google could overreact and launch a half-baked product in pure panic of being left behind or one upped by Microsoft. There is also a fear, I think, that the ChatGPT integration with Bing/Edge could not go all that smoothly. I think it could be game changing in many ways, but I can also see both of these falling apart. Amazon Alexa, Google Assistant and Siri were thought to be g…
> lose these companies money How can you say Siri loses Apple money? Does GarageBand lose them money? Photo Booth? Contacts?
Because they pay for servers and engineers for a product that they don’t charge for. It also doesn’t help sell phones when only 15% of users use it at least daily:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/696740/united-states-vir...
Re: Google's Bard shows incorrect information in its launch ad
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I would love it if this nukes the SEO industry and the internet goes back to forums and community groups. The best info is almost always locked up in these places.
LLMs will do the opposite. The internet will get flooded with machine-generated bullshit.
But LLM, while able to generate spam, if used used for search will reduce the need to click on a website, reducing the traffic to SEO websites… driving down profitability of doing it.