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Bitwarden Acquires Passwordless.dev

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Re: Bitwarden Acquires Passwordless.dev

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Post by sschueller »

Liquidor wrote: post #16
AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #4

As a recent convert to Bitwarden from LastPass, I start to get a bit nervous when I see acquisitions happening. LastPass getting acquired was the beginning of the end for it, IMO, before stagnating into criminal negligence. Granted this is Bitwarden acquiring rather than being acquired, but I still worry it leads to a trend of building "portfolio value" rather than focusing on the product. I sincerely hope I'm wrong.

I'm of the opposite opinion in this case. If someone creates new tech and it fits with Bitwarden then I'm more than happy to see what they can do together.

Like docker? They made huge profits but docker itself has made practically no improvements. It's still using iptables when many distros switches to nftables causing a huge mess and the documentation is still really poor.

Re: Bitwarden Acquires Passwordless.dev

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Post by weaksauce »

sph wrote: post #53
gagabity wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also Bitwarden recently raised 100M from VC so yeah, the clock is ticking now.

Ah for fuck's sake. It keeps happening to all the software I love. I guess I'll have to stop relying on convenience (I was a 1Password user years ago) and go 100% open-source. None of the libre offerings seem to be as convenient and polished, but at least they're not into some VC's pocket ready to squeeze as much profit as possible out of my paid membership. What's a good OSS alternative that works with iOS and Linux…

bitwarden is opensource. you can self host. the apps in the store are compatible with the self hosted options just change the url to your server. you can also fork any of the projects and build it yourself if you don't trust them.

Re: Bitwarden Acquires Passwordless.dev

#133

Post by simooooo »

kjfarm wrote: post #48
AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #4

As a recent convert to Bitwarden from LastPass, I start to get a bit nervous when I see acquisitions happening. LastPass getting acquired was the beginning of the end for it, IMO, before stagnating into criminal negligence. Granted this is Bitwarden acquiring rather than being acquired, but I still worry it leads to a trend of building "portfolio value" rather than focusing on the product. I sincerely hope I'm wrong.

A good note for bitwarden is that it has a self hosting open source version, vaultwarden that is easy to switch to: https://github.com/dani-garcia/vaultwarden I see this as downside protection, as I can quickly migrate if I disagree with bitwarden's direction with minimal changes to my clients. I do worry about VC pressure on Bitwarden for hypergrowth. However in my personal opinion, the benefits outweigh the cons (f…

Waiting for bitwarden unified to come out of beta before I self Host

Re: Bitwarden Acquires Passwordless.dev

#134

Post by mbesto »

cpsns wrote: post #44
gagabity wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also Bitwarden recently raised 100M from VC so yeah, the clock is ticking now.

> Bitwarden recently raised 100M from VC I wasn’t aware of this, but I’m glad I am now. If that’s the case it’s time to look elsewhere or self host, VC funds and acquisitions are rarely good for users so I’ll assume the worst.

> VC funds and acquisitions are rarely good for users

Where does this sentiment come from? I know very few applications I use that are VC funded or haven't gone through acquisitions...

Re: Bitwarden Acquires Passwordless.dev

#135

Post by moogly »

chriscjcj wrote: post #98
cdev_gl wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is true, but LastPass proved that by the time the worst case occurs it's already too late. A security breach means, at minimum, redoing all your passwords, and these sites are a very compelling target. OTOH I wouldn't want to self-host because I know I'm not going to spend the same amount of time and effort a full security staff would, even if my self-hosted box would make a much less attractive target. It's qui…

I self-host Vaultwarden. I'm sure someone will be happy to explain to me how foolish my implementation is, but I'm comfortable with it from a security perspective. I run it as a Docker instance on my home Synology NAS. This turned out to be pretty easy to do. The only part that was a slight hassle was buying a cert, creating an FQDN and making the DNS entries to get an SSL connection to the NAS. Also, I wish updating…

> The only part that was a slight hassle was buying a cert, creating an FQDN and making the DNS entries to get an SSL connection to the NAS

Note that Synology DSM has built-in Let's Encrypt support

Re: Bitwarden Acquires Passwordless.dev

#136

Post by Spivak »

kioleanu wrote: post #94
kjfarm wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A good note for bitwarden is that it has a self hosting open source version, vaultwarden that is easy to switch to: https://github.com/dani-garcia/vaultwarden I see this as downside protection, as I can quickly migrate if I disagree with bitwarden's direction with minimal changes to my clients. I do worry about VC pressure on Bitwarden for hypergrowth. However in my personal opinion, the benefits outweigh the cons (f…

Note that Vaultwarden is the unofficial server, there is also an official one, that you can self host. Vaultwarden is much easier to set up and manage, I use it myself, and I heard that the official build is a little bit more tedious to go with.

The official one used to only support MS SQL and other DBs are still “mileage may vary” so people were uhh pretty motivated to make something else.

Re: Bitwarden Acquires Passwordless.dev

#137

Post by Dalewyn »

mbesto wrote: post #134
cpsns wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Bitwarden recently raised 100M from VC I wasn’t aware of this, but I’m glad I am now. If that’s the case it’s time to look elsewhere or self host, VC funds and acquisitions are rarely good for users so I’ll assume the worst.

> VC funds and acquisitions are rarely good for users Where does this sentiment come from? I know very few applications I use that are VC funded or haven't gone through acquisitions...

The notion that all software must be provided free of charge and that making any profit is a cardinal sin.

Re: Bitwarden Acquires Passwordless.dev

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Post by [deleted] »

mbesto wrote: post #134
cpsns wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Bitwarden recently raised 100M from VC I wasn’t aware of this, but I’m glad I am now. If that’s the case it’s time to look elsewhere or self host, VC funds and acquisitions are rarely good for users so I’ll assume the worst.

> VC funds and acquisitions are rarely good for users Where does this sentiment come from? I know very few applications I use that are VC funded or haven't gone through acquisitions...

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Re: Bitwarden Acquires Passwordless.dev

#139

Post by vetinari »

forsakenharmony wrote: post #91
worble wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

KeepassXC has served me well for many years, synced via my Nextcloud but could just as easily use dropbox or icloud, or even syncthing.

syncthing works really well imo, can also tell it to keep 3 versions as a backup

I had conflicts that needed manual intervention too often. It is not something that most users would put up with.

Re: Bitwarden Acquires Passwordless.dev

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Post by wvenable »

Dalewyn wrote: post #137
mbesto wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> VC funds and acquisitions are rarely good for users Where does this sentiment come from? I know very few applications I use that are VC funded or haven't gone through acquisitions...

The notion that all software must be provided free of charge and that making any profit is a cardinal sin.

No, it's just that growth necessary to satisfy VC investment is unobtainable so solid products eat themselves attempting to achieve that growth.
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