System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns
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#132Now that the two big Thinkpad pointer stick patents have expired I wonder why more laptop makers aren't incorporating them?
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#133If anyone from System76 is here, I am currently looking for a new laptop and will not be buying a System76 laptop based entirely upon the giant logo on them. I don't want to put a skin, a cover or stickers over my laptop. My preference would be no logo at all but that seems to be impossible. If you are compelled to use me for free advertising post purchase, at least make it somewhat discreet.
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#134 Operating System: Pop!_OS 22.04 LTS or Ubuntu 22.04 LTS
Do they offer any custom software that are only available on these distributions and would be a struggle to find on other? Sone other Clevo resellers have for example custom software to control the fan intensity that's Ubuntu only (and Ubuntu 20.04 only). It's not clear why they restrict it to only these distributions. Also, why did they even bother to develop their own distribution? Every Linux in existence is a combination of 1 DE (Gnome, KDE, XFCE or other), 1 package manager (apt, pacmanm etc...) and some kernel params. Is it really worth spending their time on a custom Linux instead of on hardware/firmware? Speaking of firmware, does it have Coreboot or stock Clevo BIOS? Does it have a fingerprint reader and does it work, can you control the fan speed from anywhere? Nowhere to find answers to these questions... Processor: AMD Ryzen™ 7 6800U: 2.7 up to 4.7 GHz - 8 Cores - 16 Threads
Graphics: AMD Radeon™ 680M
This is great! my opinion is this is the best laptop processor reasonably available on the market right now. But if you're not desperate to switch your laptop and can wait until the middle or end of this year, buying the next generation Zen4 processor is astronomically better. Display 15.6″ 1920×1080 FHD, Matte Finish, 144 Hz
Not bad, not good either, 1440p would have been ideal. They do not specify the sRGB % coverage. Is it 90, 95, 99? The difference between 90 and 95 is definitely noticeable and you would do yourself a big disservice if you don't go for 95% at least. Memory: 32 GB LPDDR5 @ 6400 MHz
Yes, amazing, the future is now! But is it 4x8 or 2x16? And is it ECC? What brand? Storage: 2 x M.2 SSD(PCIe NVMe). Up to 16TB total.
No problems here, I assume PCIe 4.0, but would be great if they specified. Don't want to accidentally discover it was PCIe 3.0 after the purchase has been made. Also, what brand of SSD do they provide? Brands are important so you can look at benchmarks. Expansion: 3 × USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-A, 1 × USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C, SD Card Reader
3 USBA, 1 USBC? Why not 2 and 2? In the future we will need less USBA and more USBC. Look at macbooks, they have all USBC and everybody eventually copies macbooks anyway (regardless if it's a good or bad decision). The more USBC you have now the better for the future. Input: Multitouch Clickpad, Single-Color Backlit US QWERTY Keyboard
Is 100% of the surface area clickable on the clickpad, or is it one of those awkward ones where you have "mouse buttons" at the top/bottom, and you can not press onto the top, only tap? Need more information!Keyboard wise it's great! a 15 inch laptop without a numpad is a waste of potential, as a numpad is immensely helpful when doing any sort of finance work. I definitely would not buy a laptop this big without one. Still some more information non the keyboard layouts available would be nice.
Networking: Gigabit Ethernet, WiFi 6E, Bluetooth 5.2
All perfect here! Video Ports: HDMI 2.0, USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C w/ DisplayPort
I'm assuming this is the same single USBC that they mentioned above. Is it DisplayPort 1.4, or 2.0? Audio: Stereo dual-driver full-range speakers, 1× Headphone/Microphone Combo
This is their biggest flaw. If you look at the chassis, you will see, the speakers point DOWNWARD. Speakers are supposed to point towards the listener, not away from them. Also, from previously owning multiple Clevo laptops that I've bought for work purposes, sound quality is so bad, you can simply assume you have no speakers as you'll be using headphones or a conference speaker. If you buy this thinking you'll be able to enjoy any kind of video/movie out of working hours without purchasing and carrying extra peripherals you will be extremely frustrated and disappointed. Low maximum volume, poor quality sound, no base, and pointing away from you; every flaw imaginable. More that 4 people in a conference room and wanting to dial in from one laptop to share? Forget about it, you will be embarrassed to even try as the combination of laptop's built-in speakers and microphone quality will make the whole experience terrible. This is an area where macbooks excel, great speakers and great microphone, and that's why people love them so much, you can actually enjoy the audio interaction. There is no reason for non macbook laptops to be this bad at audio. All they have to do is copy macbooks, like they eventually do anyway... just put in better speakers and microphone, it's that easy. Cost wise it's not an issue either since a machine like this is going to cost in the same ballpark as a macbook anyway, why be cheap on something so insignificant for the overall price but so important for the user experience? Camera: 1.0MP 720p HD Webcam
Security: Kensington® Lock, Hardware Camera Kill Switch
A camera cover is better than a camera kill switch in my opinion, good to have at least I guess. Battery: Li-Ion - 70 Wh
Charger: 65 W, AC-in 100–240 V, 50–60 Hz
Why not 99Wh? (the maximum allowed at airports) This is not a macbook, it's a beefy, thick laptop no matter how you look at it, why not outfit it properly?Overall: at least it's guaranteed to run Linux... but from the points I raised above I guess you can see there is no point for me to get excited about this model in particular. Price wise it's going to be over the "expensive" threshold anyway, so might as well find something that ticks most checkboxes. Unless, of course I'm desperate for a new machine, in which case I could settle for this for a while.
I'm more hopeful for this vendor instead for higher quality devices: https://starlabs.systems/pages/starfighter
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1080p too. Really hard for me to go back at this point.
There's hope that a 4k screen option might exist, but anything between 1080p and 4k will not look good on Linux at this size. Without fractional scaling or funny supersampling tricks, Linux only really looks good at 100% and 200% scaling. Maybe in time that will change, but that's just how Linux is for now.
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> The first thing I see is a 16x9 screen, think "pass", and close the page. I like 16x9. What do you want instead?
Not OP but I guess 4:3 or 3:2. Some people prefer those to widescreens, having more vertical space is better MS Surface Books are 3:2 for example (2256 x 1504 on 13,5" / 2496 x 1664 on 15"), or some Thinkpad X1 models are 4:3 (probably just the Fold?). The Framework laptop is also 3:2 (2256 x 1504 on 13,5")
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I refuse to buy any laptop without a numpad.
Just curious, what do you use the numpad for?
- typing numbers.
- sometimes also: typing really long numbers
- rarely, I'll use the numpad to hold my pinky finger. My control key, arrow key, and backspace key don't like this though.
- I also use the +, -, and Enter keys too.
- Asterisk is handy for multiplication. But slash is definitely not used ever.
- Once in a while I might press the NumLock key. Usually it's pressed in pairs.
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#139Last time there was a System76 laptop announcement on HN I said I was going to be in the market for a new laptop in the coming year but wouldn't consider a System76 laptop because of the giant logo on the lid. Some people said the logos on their System76 laptops were stickers which could be removed. I contacted System76 and was told that was no longer the case. If anyone from System76 is here, I am currently looking…
Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns
#140The first thing I see is a 16x9 screen, think "pass", and close the page. There have to be other LCD panel makers out there. Either their customers don't care and/or the company doesn't care to make a better laptop.
So, please, its hard to call your product "premium" if its screen is worse than a bottom of the barrel tablet.